What's the Drake Sword of Elden Ring?

[Vulture]

Is it Bloodhound Step?
Is it Sword of Night and Flame?
Is it Reduvia?
Is it something else?

In Dark Souls, there was an item easily obtained without much work, usually exploiting the AI of an enemy. In this case, shooting arrows harmlessly at a giant tail in order to get a very powerful early game straight sword.

The problem is, the weapon has horrible scaling and ultimately starts to fall off in midgame. This could cause some builds to be utterly reliant upon it for any kind of damage as they would never invest into the STR and DEX of stronger, higher scaling weapons. This would create a "trap" per say in various degrees, where a build including Drake Sword would have high HP and Stamina, but virtually nothing else thus keeping them to the same weapon. It would also build bad early game practice as it's intense early game strength meant players would accumulate horrible habits as a result.

What's its equal in Elden Ring?

[Professor Hugedix]

sword of night and flame sounds about right. whenever I see this thing in the hand of the person that just summoned me I mentally prepare for them to die to a single attack string because they have 600hp

[815|Shouldabeen]

Meteorite Staff

[Lord Bob]

Originally posted by Professor Hugedix:

sword of night and flame sounds about right. whenever I see this thing in the hand of the person that just summoned me I mentally prepare for them to die to a single attack string because they have 600hp

I loled, sounds very relatable.

[chewonthis]

Probably Sword of Night and Flame. Especially with the nerf. It was great early to mid became obsolete endgame after nerf. It's animation for skills is slow and predictable and it's night skill even lock on misses often and the flames skill is close range which puts you in a position where you will probably get hit/interrupted.

Endgame sword is fairly useless to except for farming.

[chewonthis]

Originally posted by 815|Shouldabeen:

Meteorite Staff

I disagree. Seen many endgame wizards 2nd hand meteorite for the 30% bonus with rocksling while using renallas to cast and they stagger enemies easily using this method.

[815|Shouldabeen]

Originally posted by chewonthis:

Originally posted by 815|Shouldabeen:

Meteorite Staff

I disagree. Seen many endgame wizards 2 hand meteorite for the 30% bonus with rocksling while using renallas to cast and they stagger enemies easily using this method.

I feel like that would be very suboptimal. It gets so heavily outscaled by other weapons that the +30% seems like it would be far less than the scaling from other weapons. I will admit that I'm unable to currently test this, but maybe someone else can.

The wiki says it has a 265 scaling at 75 int, and Lusat's has a 413 at 80 int. But maybe scaling doesn't matter that much when it comes to certain sorceries, idk.

[Press K]

Originally posted by Ashen Serpent:

Is it Bloodhound Step?
Is it Sword of Night and Flame?
Is it Reduvia?
Is it something else?

In Dark Souls, there was an item easily obtained without much work, usually exploiting the AI of an enemy. In this case, shooting arrows harmlessly at a giant tail in order to get a very powerful early game straight sword.

The problem is, the weapon has horrible scaling and ultimately starts to fall off in midgame. This could cause some builds to be utterly reliant upon it for any kind of damage as they would never invest into the STR and DEX of stronger, higher scaling weapons. This would create a "trap" per say in various degrees, where a build including Drake Sword would have high HP and Stamina, but virtually nothing else thus keeping them to the same weapon. It would also build bad early game practice as it's intense early game strength meant players would accumulate horrible habits as a result.

What's its equal in Elden Ring?

I don't really know if Elden Ring has any noob trap equipment. Most weapons are fairly strong it seems and out of the three examples I've only used Reduvia. Strong little knife, useful for any budding bleed build and it really shines when you have two of them. Almost 200 hours in, I never found bloodhound step. It looks really strong no matter where you're at in the game considering that many people recommend it for dealing with Malenia and a lot of PVP players want it nerfed badly. The sword of night and flame seems pretty niche to me, post nerf that is. It requires 24 faith and intelligence, so I imagine it would be good for a fundamentalist type of build now.

Neither of these three items fit the role that the Drake Sword fills, which is being an early game filler weapon and noob trap that anyone can use.

[DarkFenix]

Originally posted by chewonthis:

Originally posted by 815|Shouldabeen:

Meteorite Staff

I disagree. Seen many endgame wizards 2nd hand meteorite for the 30% bonus with rocksling while using renallas to cast and they stagger enemies easily using this method.

In a manner of speaking though, it's very much like the drake sword. You can easily get it very early, and it doesn't scale well into mid-late game. Though in the sword's case it was from a total lack of stat scaling, in the meteorite staff it's in the form of a lack of upgrades. It's an early game crutch weapon.

Though unlike the drake sword it's not necessarily a telltale sign of a noob, instead being a genuinely good and sensible start to a sorcery build.

[DatDude]

Bloody Slash, ist very strong early on. you only need to level up HP so you dont kill your self because of the HP cost. It falls of late game because it is a little bit too slow and the bosses also have a lot of HP and high dmg output.

[Myrmuz [IRL]]

Moonveil.

Although, it's not really ever bad. i just mentally classify people with it as noobs because they spam the weapon art like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Drakzen]

Dual wield massive weapons feels like a noob trap to me this time xD

They'll see people do huge damage with it, try themselves and get clapped after their first jump attack

Meteorite staff maybe but only if they try to use it for the entire game but not use gravity spells with it

[cooperman]

Originally posted by 815|Shouldabeen:

Meteorite Staff

This+purple crack rocks

[Press K]

Originally posted by Drakzen:

Dual wield massive weapons feels like a noob trap to me this time xD

They'll see people do huge damage with it, try themselves and get clapped after their first jump attack :elrath:

Meteorite staff maybe but only if they try to use it for the entire game but not use gravity spells with it

I guess the noobs forgot to use royal knight's resolve. That's why big bonkers do big damage.

[Press K]

Originally posted by IRL bane poster:

Originally posted by Ashen Serpent:

Is it Bloodhound Step?
Is it Sword of Night and Flame?
Is it Reduvia?
Is it something else?

In Dark Souls, there was an item easily obtained without much work, usually exploiting the AI of an enemy. In this case, shooting arrows harmlessly at a giant tail in order to get a very powerful early game straight sword.

The problem is, the weapon has horrible scaling and ultimately starts to fall off in midgame. This could cause some builds to be utterly reliant upon it for any kind of damage as they would never invest into the STR and DEX of stronger, higher scaling weapons. This would create a "trap" per say in various degrees, where a build including Drake Sword would have high HP and Stamina, but virtually nothing else thus keeping them to the same weapon. It would also build bad early game practice as it's intense early game strength meant players would accumulate horrible habits as a result.

What's its equal in Elden Ring?

I don't really know if Elden Ring has any noob trap equipment. Most weapons are fairly strong it seems and out of the three examples I've only used Reduvia. Strong little knife, useful for any budding bleed build and it really shines when you have two of them. Almost 200 hours in, I never found bloodhound step. It looks really strong no matter where you're at in the game considering that many people recommend it for dealing with Malenia and a lot of PVP players want it nerfed badly. The sword of night and flame seems pretty niche to me, post nerf that is. It requires 24 faith and intelligence, so I imagine it would be good for a fundamentalist type of build now.

Neither of these three items fit the role that the Drake Sword fills, which is being an early game filler weapon and noob trap that anyone can use.

Actually, I had a nice long think and I think spirit ashes can be a noob trap if a player never bothers to learn how to fight a boss solo. No judgement by the way because I use them too.

[Drake Ravenwolf]

I'd say its the bloodhound tooth, except I was able to complete the whole game with it :-P