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Chaos Apr 5, 2022 @ 9:12pm
Are Ranni and Melina the same person? (spoilers)
I think they must have split after Ranni killed herself, you can see the burned corpse on top of Liurnia divinity tower.

Then the eye thing, they have opposite eyes closed. They are both related to black knife assasins.

In the frenzied flames ending, it seems Ranni and Melina are back to being one person again and have both of their eyes open.

There is also some evidence to indicate they are not the same person, for example Ranni's tattoo is that of the death curse symbol. Melina's tattoo is the frenzied flame symbol.

They are different characters with different names, but in this game nothing is as it seems, multiple times characters have tricked us or pretended to be something they are not.
Last edited by Chaos; Apr 5, 2022 @ 9:14pm
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Kain Apr 5, 2022 @ 9:30pm 
I don't think so, they have the eye thing but I couldn't find much on their lore to link them together.

Ranni's body is dead and rotting and trapped in a doll. Plus Melina's tatoo looks more like a crow's feet. Maybe she serves the bird god.
Last edited by Kain; Apr 6, 2022 @ 11:11am
Blahness Apr 5, 2022 @ 9:49pm 
Originally posted by Kain:
I don't think so, they have the eye thing but I couldn't find much on their lore to link them together.

Ranni's body is dead and rotting and trapped in a doll. Plus Melina's tatoo looks more like a feet. Maybe she serves the bird god.
The one obvious thing that connects them is that when you summon Melina she fights in the same way as the black knife assassins. We will probably get more to the lore in the DLCs whenever they come out. She could be a black knife that betrayed Ranni, who knows.
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Thorn Apr 5, 2022 @ 10:02pm 
They're half sisters so I think when Ranni made her doll body she just based it on Melina
No.
them4pples Apr 5, 2022 @ 10:07pm 
Originally posted by Thorn:
They're half sisters so I think when Ranni made her doll body she just based it on Melina

the doll is modeled on ranni's secret mentor who was a snow witch. check the snow witch item descriptions.
Last edited by them4pples; Apr 5, 2022 @ 10:09pm
Valky Apr 5, 2022 @ 10:11pm 
Originally posted by Thorn:
They're half sisters so I think when Ranni made her doll body she just based it on Melina
All demi gods are children of Marika so obviously they're related.



Originally posted by Blahness:
Originally posted by Kain:
I don't think so, they have the eye thing but I couldn't find much on their lore to link them together.

Ranni's body is dead and rotting and trapped in a doll. Plus Melina's tatoo looks more like a feet. Maybe she serves the bird god.
The one obvious thing that connects them is that when you summon Melina she fights in the same way as the black knife assassins. We will probably get more to the lore in the DLCs whenever they come out. She could be a black knife that betrayed Ranni, who knows.
She's not a black knife. She uses order incantations.
She's also the only daughter of Marika that actually wants to save her mother. "For spoiler reasons that's as far as i'll go."
Chaos Apr 5, 2022 @ 10:25pm 
Originally posted by Kain:
I don't think so, they have the eye thing but I couldn't find much on their lore to link them together.

Ranni's body is dead and rotting and trapped in a doll. Plus Melina's tatoo looks more like a feet. Maybe she serves the bird god.
regarding the tattoos, I watched this youtuber put melina's face over ranni's spirit's face and they matched perfectly, and the tattoos actually made a full picture and looked like a claw

https://youtu.be/jpMzm-32wp8?t=501
The High Seraph Apr 5, 2022 @ 10:27pm 
Different mothers and different motives . They are different .
Last edited by The High Seraph; Apr 5, 2022 @ 10:28pm
Julymorning Apr 5, 2022 @ 10:31pm 
Can you guys please stop filling the forum with this cringe imbecile nonsense lol. literally no one cares
grandma_moses Apr 5, 2022 @ 10:31pm 
Originally posted by The High Seraph:
Different mothers and different motives . They are different .

That's the hard thing with the lore, vagueness can lead to different perceptions.

While one is mothered by Marika, the other is fathered by Radagon, if I recall correctly.

Do you see where the problem lies?

Originally posted by Julymorning:
Can you guys please stop filling the forum with this cringe imbecile nonsense lol. literally no one cares

Lead by example, my man.
Last edited by grandma_moses; Apr 5, 2022 @ 10:32pm
Julymorning Apr 5, 2022 @ 10:35pm 
Originally posted by grandma_moses:
Originally posted by The High Seraph:
Different mothers and different motives . They are different .

That's the hard thing with the lore, vagueness can lead to different perceptions.

While one is mothered by Marika, the other is fathered by Radagon, if I recall correctly.

Do you see where the problem lies?

Originally posted by Julymorning:
Can you guys please stop filling the forum with this cringe imbecile nonsense lol. literally no one cares

Lead by example, my man.
You arent smart despite trying really hard lol
grandma_moses Apr 5, 2022 @ 10:39pm 
And you in time will learn to spot irony, like say posting two times about not posting stuff that doesn't interest you. You'll have a good time then, too.

But it's too early in the morning where I live, so let's be friends and go our ways. And maybe next time we'll not instantly default to insulting a person's intelligence without knowing them, what do you think?

Have a nice day.
Julymorning Apr 5, 2022 @ 10:46pm 
Originally posted by grandma_moses:
And you in time will learn to spot irony, like say posting two times about not posting stuff that doesn't interest you. You'll have a good time then, too.

But it's too early in the morning where I live, so let's be friends and go our ways. And maybe next time we'll not instantly default to insulting a person's intelligence without knowing them, what do you think?

Have a nice day.
Enough of this "nice guy with cool attitude". You are just hiding your hatred behind words and we both know it
LongParsnip Apr 5, 2022 @ 11:03pm 
Originally posted by Julymorning:
Originally posted by grandma_moses:
And you in time will learn to spot irony, like say posting two times about not posting stuff that doesn't interest you. You'll have a good time then, too.

But it's too early in the morning where I live, so let's be friends and go our ways. And maybe next time we'll not instantly default to insulting a person's intelligence without knowing them, what do you think?

Have a nice day.
Enough of this "nice guy with cool attitude". You are just hiding your hatred behind words and we both know it

You are literally poking everyone with your toxic stick and calling others toxic. WTF.
tallgeese Apr 5, 2022 @ 11:07pm 
It's been shown that Melina's face perfectly fits the ghost form present on Ranni's body...

They aren't the same person, but definitely do have a connection.

They are both Empyreans born from Marika.
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