SPOILER ALERT: Frenzied Flame = True Ending/DS Prequel?

[floaty469]

World turned to ash, Elden Lord killed by Finger Maiden, nothing survives but dragons, nothing exists but the flame...? Who or what is Patches?

[The Tempted Man]

The man behind all of this, I wager. The Jar Jar of DS.

[floaty469]

Originally posted by The Tempted Man:

The man behind all of this, I wager. The Jar Jar of DS.

F***** Tom Bombadil

[Akemua]

Originally posted by The Tempted Man:

The man behind all of this, I wager. The Jar Jar of DS.

"The Jar Jar of DS" ♥♥♥♥ me that's beautiful.

[darksouls]

Originally posted by dustygrams:

World turned to ash, Elden Lord killed by Finger Maiden, nothing survives but dragons, nothing exists but the flame...? Who or what is Patches?

The worlds are "apparently", not in the same universe


BUT MY MAN PATCHES DOESN'T THINK SO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHx8l8kGvYQ


also, remember:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=e0l73vAlEBQ

"In the age of ancients. The world was unformed. Shrouded by fog.

A land of grey crags, archtrees, and everlasting dragons."

We see the ♥♥♥♥ out of those in Elden Ringalingading like EVERYWHERE.

So, this is my theory, the lands are loosely connected, like there's dimensional warp stuff going on, we see this even in-game. The "Fire" in dark souls may be some kind of spell, making use of different power, distant from outer gods, maybe it is frenzied flame since Izalith bed of chaos was attempting to harness or create "The First Flame" And even on the wiki the fire color looks more golden and intense, similarly,


Oh wow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDQPIhQawss

"Bed of Chaos" = removal of all that separates and divides.

The one thing missing from Elden Ring may be the "dark" element. This may have been some outer god who could stand against the might of the frenzied flame 's First fire. But for all we know, the fire of the first flame destroys them all or keeps them suppressed, to a great extent.

My theory is the Darkness element is the mature form or power of Godwyn the golden, but not sure.

[John Titor]

Spoiler alert: frenzied flame is people!

Also no, age of duskborn is the true prequel ending. Godwyn becomes nito.

[floaty469]

Originally posted by fear:

Originally posted by dustygrams:

World turned to ash, Elden Lord killed by Finger Maiden, nothing survives but dragons, nothing exists but the flame...? Who or what is Patches?

The worlds are "apparently", not in the same universe


BUT MY MAN PATCHES DOESN'T THINK SO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHx8l8kGvYQ


also, remember:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=e0l73vAlEBQ

"In the age of ancients. The world was unformed. Shrouded by fog.

A land of grey crags, archtrees, and everlasting dragons."

We see the ♥♥♥♥ out of those in Elden Ringalingading like EVERYWHERE.

So, this is my theory, the lands are loosely connected, like there's dimensional warp stuff going on, we see this even in-game. The "Fire" in dark souls may be some kind of spell, making use of different power, distant from outer gods, maybe it is frenzied flame since Izalith bed of chaos was attempting to harness or create "The First Flame" And even on the wiki the fire color looks more golden and intense, similarly,


Oh wow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDQPIhQawss

"Bed of Chaos" = removal of all that separates and divides.

The one thing missing from Elden Ring may be the "dark" element. This may have been some outer god who could stand against the might of the frenzied flame 's First fire. But for all we know, the fire of the first flame destroys them all or keeps them suppressed, to a great extent.

My theory is the Darkness element is the mature form or power of Godwyn the golden, but not sure.

Maybe not alternate dimensions, I thought as well at one point but what it maybe Millions and Millions of years apart. Like Eldenring several million years before dark souls and millions of years between dark souls games. Easy to assume since it is the same world in the DS games after many ages of fire, possibly countless ages.

My theory was the darkness, fog, ash, and trees after everything was burned by the frenzied flame.

[floaty469]

Originally posted by dustygrams:

Originally posted by fear:

The worlds are "apparently", not in the same universe


BUT MY MAN PATCHES DOESN'T THINK SO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHx8l8kGvYQ


also, remember:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=e0l73vAlEBQ

"In the age of ancients. The world was unformed. Shrouded by fog.

A land of grey crags, archtrees, and everlasting dragons."

We see the ♥♥♥♥ out of those in Elden Ringalingading like EVERYWHERE.

So, this is my theory, the lands are loosely connected, like there's dimensional warp stuff going on, we see this even in-game. The "Fire" in dark souls may be some kind of spell, making use of different power, distant from outer gods, maybe it is frenzied flame since Izalith bed of chaos was attempting to harness or create "The First Flame" And even on the wiki the fire color looks more golden and intense, similarly,


Oh wow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDQPIhQawss

"Bed of Chaos" = removal of all that separates and divides.

The one thing missing from Elden Ring may be the "dark" element. This may have been some outer god who could stand against the might of the frenzied flame 's First fire. But for all we know, the fire of the first flame destroys them all or keeps them suppressed, to a great extent.

My theory is the Darkness element is the mature form or power of Godwyn the golden, but not sure.

Maybe not alternate dimensions, I thought as well at one point but what it maybe Millions and Millions of years apart. Like Eldenring several million years before dark souls and millions of years between dark souls games. Easy to assume since it is the same world in the DS games after many ages of fire, possibly countless ages.

My theory was the darkness, fog, ash, and trees after everything was burned by the frenzied flame.

Remember the Finger Maiden set out to kill the Frenzied Lord because we unlocked destined death, death of the flame, darkness.

[darksouls]

Originally posted by John Titor:

Spoiler alert: frenzied flame is people!

Also no, age of duskborn is the true prequel ending. Godwyn becomes nito.

I hope future DLC will show us more on this. I think you're right.

[darksouls]

Originally posted by dustygrams:

Originally posted by fear:

The worlds are "apparently", not in the same universe


BUT MY MAN PATCHES DOESN'T THINK SO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHx8l8kGvYQ


also, remember:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=e0l73vAlEBQ

"In the age of ancients. The world was unformed. Shrouded by fog.

A land of grey crags, archtrees, and everlasting dragons."

We see the ♥♥♥♥ out of those in Elden Ringalingading like EVERYWHERE.

So, this is my theory, the lands are loosely connected, like there's dimensional warp stuff going on, we see this even in-game. The "Fire" in dark souls may be some kind of spell, making use of different power, distant from outer gods, maybe it is frenzied flame since Izalith bed of chaos was attempting to harness or create "The First Flame" And even on the wiki the fire color looks more golden and intense, similarly,


Oh wow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDQPIhQawss

"Bed of Chaos" = removal of all that separates and divides.

The one thing missing from Elden Ring may be the "dark" element. This may have been some outer god who could stand against the might of the frenzied flame 's First fire. But for all we know, the fire of the first flame destroys them all or keeps them suppressed, to a great extent.

My theory is the Darkness element is the mature form or power of Godwyn the golden, but not sure.

Maybe not alternate dimensions, I thought as well at one point but what it maybe Millions and Millions of years apart. Like Eldenring several million years before dark souls and millions of years between dark souls games. Easy to assume since it is the same world in the DS games after many ages of fire, possibly countless ages.

My theory was the darkness, fog, ash, and trees after everything was burned by the frenzied flame.

Yeah, that comment was really some joke reference to another post.

I think they're is a connection. Not sure with Demon's Souls.

[GONDAL]

iirc it's been stated they're separate universe. Of course, Elden Ring is actually DS but with the names of things changed, so perhaps we're making spurious connections because of that...

[darksouls]

Originally posted by AzureDreams:

iirc it's been stated they're separate universe. Of course, Elden Ring is actually DS but with the names of things changed, so perhaps we're making spurious connections because of that...

[Sabaithal]

Originally posted by AzureDreams:

iirc it's been stated they're separate universe.

Got a source for this? Because if it didn't come from Miyazaki nothing is certain.

[Anthreris]

Originally posted by fear:

Originally posted by AzureDreams:

iirc it's been stated they're separate universe. Of course, Elden Ring is actually DS but with the names of things changed, so perhaps we're making spurious connections because of that...

:praisesun:

I mean they are separate universe if you consider Elden Ring a separate IP. However I think there is more to this than we realize. Many of these games have similar themes and minor details which could create the other games of Soulsborne.

I personally like to imagine its a mindgame that the writers are constantly playing with us, only they know the truth. Because of this they are able to continue a franchise without actually requiring the stories to obviously connect despite the hints which suggest otherwise.

I know developers are always implementing Eastereggs in their games, but my logic is if its referenced it exists in the game, and if it exists in the game it is canon to some degree. Best examples are Patches (which exists in many of the Soulsborne games even this one), and the Shield of Want from DS2 which is also in DS3.