is holy of any use outtside of pvp and deathrite birds?

[Star Taker ✨]

i wanna use holy but nearly everything is resistant to it or immune

[Sparhawk 59]

Think you answered your own question

[Dollmaker]

Yeah Holy dmg got pretty screwed this time around...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzPTFC1x0xw

[Sabaithal]

Holy water pots do bonus damage to zombies and a lot of damage to skeletons. They also keeps skeletons from reviving.

And I would like to remind you that there are zombies pretty much everywhere in this game. In caves, in tombs, in heroes graves, on some random beat in the Peninsula, hanging around the branches of a giant tree...

[medicinezombie]

??? That is an exaggeration...I think only Radagon/Elden Beast are immune

Holy damage is fine, the doot horn (Envoy Long Horn) is the strongest PvE weapon in the game

[Dollmaker]

Messaggio originale di medicinezombie:

??? That is an exaggeration...I think only Radagon/Elden Beast are immune

Holy damage is fine, the doot horn (Envoy Long Horn) is the strongest PvE weapon in the game

Until you realize a lot of the main bosses are resistant to holy...

[medicinezombie]

Messaggio originale di Dollmaker:

Until you realize a lot of the main bosses are resistant to holy...

This is correct.

But I thought the OP was asking if holy was EVER useful, not if it was ALWAYS useful, so I just wanted to give some examples. But yes, Faith builds should go fire or something when fighting the Elden Beast.

But I didn't even know Placidusax had teleportation when I fought him because I killed him in less than 10 seconds with holy damage, so it can work really well sometimes.

I'd say experiment, it probably depends on what you are doing OP, and the enemy you are fighting.

[McREEEEEE]

Messaggio originale di medicinezombie:

??? That is an exaggeration...I think only Radagon/Elden Beast are immune

Holy damage is fine, the doot horn (Envoy Long Horn) is the strongest PvE weapon in the game

When RoB, Moonveil or Deathpoker exist???

[Xengre]

For Deathrite birds, undead, and trash mobs its amazing. For bosses it seems to be common resisted. In fact, almost all elements are trash against bosses as FROM completely screwed elements up here, and I could not possibly overstate this.

The current situation is unlike Dark Souls 3 which had a great deal of meaningful value in figuring out and using the right elements this is not the case in Elden Ring. Aside from a crit weapon like Misericorde being used to crit most of the times elemental affinities on weapons are inferior. Buffs are fine because they're after normal calculations and simply add to it as bonus dmg but even those are far weaker and almost irrelevant which one you choose to toss on unless its something like fire against Magma Wyrm which is obviously highly resistant to fire. The exception is at the very start of the game when you have very low level/weapon upgrade using an elemental infusion might be good for early on due to the extra AR. Also, it can in rare cases stagger some enemies like plants if using fire.

In fact, I don't think any enemies except undead enemies weak to holy are actually weak to any other element in the game like in DS3. They're simply either 0 resistance or some degree of dmg reduction rather than weak. Holy is the only one, and only on specific enemies, that I've seen cause significant increase in dmg clearly beyond normal AR scaling, but again most bosses are resistant to it...

[Star Taker ✨]

Messaggio originale di medicinezombie:

Messaggio originale di Dollmaker:

Until you realize a lot of the main bosses are resistant to holy...

This is correct.

But I thought the OP was asking if holy was EVER useful, not if it was ALWAYS useful, so I just wanted to give some examples. But yes, Faith builds should go fire or something when fighting the Elden Beast.

But I didn't even know Placidusax had teleportation when I fought him because I killed him in less than 10 seconds with holy damage, so it can work really well sometimes.

I'd say experiment, it probably depends on what you are doing OP, and the enemy you are fighting.

oh believe me i ran through the whole game with marika's hammers and i was doing no dmg to bosses, i broke at fire giant and then i realized how much of a difference it is
i asked this cuz i was wondering if im doing anything wrong, istg its so disapointing that holy which is like 25% of the gear you are given in the game is holy and its useless unless its a deathrite bird, mostly cuz everything related to holy looks super cool and has good potential

[Star Taker ✨]

Messaggio originale di medicinezombie:

??? That is an exaggeration...I think only Radagon/Elden Beast are immune

Holy damage is fine, the doot horn (Envoy Long Horn) is the strongest PvE weapon in the game

malkith is 80% resistant, practically immune, and most bosses have 40% resistance, ur better off using an unupgraded dagger to beat all bosses then a +10 marikas hammer

[Sir Latrine de Bretagne]

I mostly used holy weapons for my entire faith playthrough. Switched to fire whe necessary.

[Star Taker ✨]

Messaggio originale di Sir Latrine de Bretagne:

I mostly used holy weapons for my entire faith playthrough. Switched to fire whe necessary.

what loadout did you use and how easy was the switch? how did you make up for the holy resists?

[Daegon]

It's good for early game, I used the black gargoyle sword which has holy element as a base damage and it carried me very well until I got something better at midgame.

[Henswi]

Holy is great for farming...

[Sabaithal]

This hasn't really been discussed, but somewhat implied...FAI builds revolving around holy are far from useless against the final bosses. Mainly because a lot of Holy schools focus less on damage and more on healing and BUFFS, such as one that gives you a 30% increase in holy resistance, another than makes you regen health ,etc.

Just make sure your main weapon does something other than Holy damage. Fire damage is good for the final bosses, or at least its no worse than magic or lightning...