Moonveil is good weapon. And it's balanced.

[scared and pitty wraith]

Title. I don't like how weak player call it OP when it's not. Charging special attacks takes a time and it has not so much range.

This weapon is balanced and fun to use. Stop crying.

[Argonaut]

Escrito originalmente por Sabaithal:

Escrito originalmente por Argonaut:

I used mooveil on a 40/80 mind/int so all I remember of those enemies is melting them during their spawn animation or getting caught of guard and two shotting them with the overhead swing.

If you have 80 INT, yes a lot of offensive stuff you're going to do will melt mini-bosses. Doesn't mean something is busted, you just have higher stats than is necessary for that encounter.

I said I used it on a 40/80 build not that I was at 40/80 when I hit those enemies. Moonveil is busted and if you think otherwise then please show me the faith version of moonveil.

[Lince_SPAIN]

Escrito originalmente por Argonaut:

Escrito originalmente por Sabaithal:

If you have 80 INT, yes a lot of offensive stuff you're going to do will melt mini-bosses. Doesn't mean something is busted, you just have higher stats than is necessary for that encounter.

I said I used it on a 40/80 build not that I was at 40/80 when I hit those enemies. Moonveil is busted and if you think otherwise then please show me the faith version of moonveil.

Blasphemous GS >>>>>> Moon Blade

it's just another op item along the lines of Rivers, Blasphemous, Redmane, BHS, Sepukku... and many others, there's so much "broken" stuff in this game. Also, 90% of weapons are never given a chance, everyone goes for the same 10%.

[RXDimA]

*launches sacred blade at you*
nothin personel

[Troglodyte]

From my first days of playing i thought it was op, but that was because like everyone During the first hours, i sucked. I think its brain dead and unga bunga to use and its extremely effective against noobs, kinda like frayed blade from ds3

[IrtheWalrus]

Escrito originalmente por playa:

Title. I don't like how weak player call it OP when it's not. Charging special attacks takes a time and it has not so much range.

This weapon is balanced and fun to use. Stop crying.

pure cope.
it will get adjusted down again, guaranteed

[cridus]

For the range the vertical slash has, it's too fast and deals too much damage. It's way too easy to punish heals with it if you have a buddy with you (even worse with 2).
I think if they would just reduce the damage of that slash the further away it goes, it would be better.
I don't want to use BHS just to manage to heal if I'm against 2 aggressive players with one using the moonveil. I haven't so far, but it would have saved me several times in such a situation.

[Grim Sorrow]

Actually i heard in a youtube video it was nerfed into a trash weapon.

[Sabaithal]

Escrito originalmente por Argonaut:

Escrito originalmente por Sabaithal:

If you have 80 INT, yes a lot of offensive stuff you're going to do will melt mini-bosses. Doesn't mean something is busted, you just have higher stats than is necessary for that encounter.

I said I used it on a 40/80 build not that I was at 40/80 when I hit those enemies. Moonveil is busted and if you think otherwise then please show me the faith version of moonveil.

Coded sword. Goes through anything, including shields and "hardened" enemies, and its weapon art is both unblockable, does extremely high damage with faith damage, and takes out entire rooms with much lower FP usage. About the same as moonveil if you're going to make that distinction.

[D3humaniz3d]

Moonveil is not the issue. The issue is, everything else compared to moonveil WA is ♥♥♥♥.

Loretta's slash? Super long windup, poor hitbox and very awkward since the movement is partially locked during the animation.

Giant hunt? Other than good to rollcatch idiots who don't know about it, it's pretty much useless.

Any of the pierce attacks? Telegraphed AF, can't time the release. Anyone with a working dodge button after seeing it once will dodge them always.

All of the WA (maybe except a few?) suffer from being super telegraphed, non-timed moves where the animation always plays out the same.

Moonveil on the other hand... You can hold that WA. You can time it for a misspaced attack. The range on it is insane. You can reaction punish with it from a safe distance, removing spacing from the equation, basically (in contrast to the regular sheathe WA where you do have to use your brain with it)

ER is a continuation of Fromsoft not understanding (or pretending not to) what makes movesets / weapons viable. Forward momentum and Startup frames make or break movesets. Greatswords are a great example of a dead weapon class in ER.

And traditionally, Fromsoft loves katanas. There has never been a single game where kat's weren't at least considered "good".

[D. Flame]

It's not unbalanced because it is OP. It is unbalanced because most things are trash.

[hbyw618]

Escrito originalmente por D. Flame:

It's not unbalanced because it is OP. It is unbalanced because most things are trash.

I think you right, I translate it to this:
Too many things looks and smelt the same and no differences.

[DeuceBane]

Escrito originalmente por D. Flame:

It's not unbalanced because it is OP. It is unbalanced because most things are trash.

IDK, i think a lot of people are of the opinion that damage output in general in this game is out of hand. The idea that the fix for moonveil is to make EVERYTHING a thoughtless win button seems problematic.

[Elazul]

Escrito originalmente por Grim Sorrow:

Actually i heard in a youtube video it was nerfed into a trash weapon.

Then you watched a click bait crap video. YT is full of them. People just saying whatever for the clicks. The weapon is still absolutely amazing. The only thing they did was stealth nerf the poise damage and only a little bit. Takes like one extra attack to stagger now that's it.