ELDEN RING

ELDEN RING

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Jester Apr 22, 2022 @ 3:26am
Is there a reason why almost everything in this game attacks you on sight?
Dark souls is that everyone is hollowed or demons/dragons,etc and then in Bloodborne people are going ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ because of the blood.

But what about Elden ring? I don't think there's a good enough lore reason to justify this.
It's also a bit silly when you're also attending the Radahn Festival which should be very festive and respected occasion to the warriors attempting to give Radahn an honorable death but it's KOS just outside. Also suspend your disbelief when you're allied with people in position of power and his/her men is just again wailing on you in their territory lol.
Like ♥♥♥♥ you would think joining Volcano manor the one guarding the door would give you some courtesy :(.
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Sickerton Apr 22, 2022 @ 3:31am 
A lot of places have gone to ♥♥♥♥, but the flavor changes depending on the area. Caelid has a case of brain rot, all the even halfway respectable people have long since fled Godrick's lands, and the Flame of Frenzy pops up all over the place.

Volcano Manor, though, are just jerks. It's pretty much part of the code, Bernahl will flat out tell you upfront.

Edit: There are people who don't attack on sight, though! A lot of the bog standard unarmed commoners will do nothing but run away or cower, but most people cut them down before it's really noticeable.
Last edited by Sickerton; Apr 22, 2022 @ 3:35am
Tao314zdin Apr 22, 2022 @ 3:32am 
Because you came there to murder, robe and loot?

I mean there is also guidance of grace or what not, but 99% of what tarnished are doing is murdering robbing and looting.

Those who do not attack tarnished just do not want to die immediately the bloodthirsty bastard.
NisseDood Apr 22, 2022 @ 3:34am 
A big wolfman and a giant urn gets free passage to the festival.
Lord Bob Apr 22, 2022 @ 3:34am 
All Tarnished were banished from the lands between by Marika I believe.
Considering that Marika as godqueen is/was the most beloved person, it would make sense that npcs at least react to you in some way, and most of them seem to be hostile towards the player.
Last edited by Lord Bob; Apr 22, 2022 @ 3:38am
Dairadh Apr 22, 2022 @ 3:36am 
The Elden Ring is broken, so everyone went ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crazy. Guess that sums it up.
CB Apr 22, 2022 @ 3:43am 
i named my character 'rainbow dash.'
TonkatsuRamen Apr 22, 2022 @ 3:44am 
Be a banished tarnished. A god made a decree, that you shall never return to the land between. Be a chad tarnished and do it anyway. Get called maidenless, so you are pissed off. Start killing animals, monsters and humans left and right. Raiding ancient ruins, stealing artifacts. Kick in doors to castles, walk up to leaders and kings and slap them around to take their souls (remembarance) and runes. Raid all the artifacts from the castle and scoot off.

Decorate yourself in all the sweet loot you find so everyone knows you stole from their homeland.

See random graveyards with open caskets, decide to steal all the runes from the dead.

Find the last city that has something that resembles order. Kick the teeth of the door bouncer and walk in there. Start murdering ♥♥♥♥ with the intend to go to their most holy site the Erdtree. When you get cucked by the Erdtree you decide to be a giga chad and just burn it all down.

Walz into the forbidden lands, killing everything in your path. Commit genocide on the race of the giants and kill the last living giant. Sacrifice your maiden to spark some fancy fire and set the tree ablaze. Whole capital city is only rubbles and ash now.

Become Ultra giga chad by killing their beloved God and take the throne.

Bonus points if you join the tree fingers and decide to not only burn the Erdtree but also set the whole world aflame or spread the loathsome dung eaters poop curse and damn entire generations to unending suffering.
Tomas Mac Mordain Apr 22, 2022 @ 4:02am 
Originally posted by TonkatsuRamen:
Be a banished tarnished. A god made a decree, that you shall never return to the land between. Be a chad tarnished and do it anyway. Get called maidenless, so you are pissed off. Start killing animals, monsters and humans left and right. Raiding ancient ruins, stealing artifacts. Kick in doors to castles, walk up to leaders and kings and slap them around to take their souls (remembarance) and runes. Raid all the artifacts from the castle and scoot off.

Decorate yourself in all the sweet loot you find so everyone knows you stole from their homeland.

See random graveyards with open caskets, decide to steal all the runes from the dead.

Find the last city that has something that resembles order. Kick the teeth of the door bouncer and walk in there. Start murdering ♥♥♥♥ with the intend to go to their most holy site the Erdtree. When you get cucked by the Erdtree you decide to be a giga chad and just burn it all down.

Walz into the forbidden lands, killing everything in your path. Commit genocide on the race of the giants and kill the last living giant. Sacrifice your maiden to spark some fancy fire and set the tree ablaze. Whole capital city is only rubbles and ash now.

Become Ultra giga chad by killing their beloved God and take the throne.

Bonus points if you join the tree fingers and decide to not only burn the Erdtree but also set the whole world aflame or spread the loathsome dung eaters poop curse and damn entire generations to unending suffering.

And all of that would work much better if the environment was a somewhat 'functioning society' to some degree.

I remember being so disappointed when first playing through and everybody was like: "the capital" or "volcano manor" implying there would be a civilized part of the world that still functions where people go about their business and it's just the ruined world below that is utterly degenerate.

No.. both volcano manor and lyendell are full of degenerate zombie monsters...

I believe the world design did not succeed as well as it could with 'just enemies' in it.

The quest characters feel very much out of place, because none of them are 'seekers' or 'combatants' like you. They ostensibly are characters 'living' in a world that ... has nothing but copy-pasted ruins and degenerate undead in it...
Alt Apr 22, 2022 @ 4:38am 
Originally posted by gordonshumway:
Originally posted by TonkatsuRamen:
Be a banished tarnished. A god made a decree, that you shall never return to the land between. Be a chad tarnished and do it anyway. Get called maidenless, so you are pissed off. Start killing animals, monsters and humans left and right. Raiding ancient ruins, stealing artifacts. Kick in doors to castles, walk up to leaders and kings and slap them around to take their souls (remembarance) and runes. Raid all the artifacts from the castle and scoot off.

Decorate yourself in all the sweet loot you find so everyone knows you stole from their homeland.

See random graveyards with open caskets, decide to steal all the runes from the dead.

Find the last city that has something that resembles order. Kick the teeth of the door bouncer and walk in there. Start murdering ♥♥♥♥ with the intend to go to their most holy site the Erdtree. When you get cucked by the Erdtree you decide to be a giga chad and just burn it all down.

Walz into the forbidden lands, killing everything in your path. Commit genocide on the race of the giants and kill the last living giant. Sacrifice your maiden to spark some fancy fire and set the tree ablaze. Whole capital city is only rubbles and ash now.

Become Ultra giga chad by killing their beloved God and take the throne.

Bonus points if you join the tree fingers and decide to not only burn the Erdtree but also set the whole world aflame or spread the loathsome dung eaters poop curse and damn entire generations to unending suffering.

And all of that would work much better if the environment was a somewhat 'functioning society' to some degree.

I remember being so disappointed when first playing through and everybody was like: "the capital" or "volcano manor" implying there would be a civilized part of the world that still functions where people go about their business and it's just the ruined world below that is utterly degenerate.

No.. both volcano manor and lyendell are full of degenerate zombie monsters...

I believe the world design did not succeed as well as it could with 'just enemies' in it.

The quest characters feel very much out of place, because none of them are 'seekers' or 'combatants' like you. They ostensibly are characters 'living' in a world that ... has nothing but copy-pasted ruins and degenerate undead in it...
See, thats where you wrong. From soft doesnt make RPG's like Skyrim, Witcher etc. Their games have more "game" aspect to it. Most other RPG of this calibre are closer to interactive movie than to a game. Not everyone likes to talk for hours with different NPCs.

I personally wont mind, at some point, get from Miyakaki game with a lot of interactive NPC, dialogues and cutscenes. In the vein of the Witcher, for example, just to experience how his story would look and feel in that kind of style. But it seems like he and dev team just doesnt want to do it. And its okay.
Last edited by Alt; Apr 22, 2022 @ 4:40am
Tomas Mac Mordain Apr 22, 2022 @ 4:43am 
Originally posted by Sinderlok:
Originally posted by gordonshumway:

And all of that would work much better if the environment was a somewhat 'functioning society' to some degree.

I remember being so disappointed when first playing through and everybody was like: "the capital" or "volcano manor" implying there would be a civilized part of the world that still functions where people go about their business and it's just the ruined world below that is utterly degenerate.

No.. both volcano manor and lyendell are full of degenerate zombie monsters...

I believe the world design did not succeed as well as it could with 'just enemies' in it.

The quest characters feel very much out of place, because none of them are 'seekers' or 'combatants' like you. They ostensibly are characters 'living' in a world that ... has nothing but copy-pasted ruins and degenerate undead in it...
See, thats where you wrong. From soft doesnt make RPG's like Skyrim, Witcher etc. Their games have more "game" aspect to it. Most other RPG of this calibre are closer to interactive movie than to a game. Not everyone likes to talk for hours with different NPCs.

I personally wont mind, at some point, get from Miyakaki game with a lot of interactive NPC, dialogues and cutscenes. In the vein of the Witcher, for example, just to experience how his story would look and feel in that kind of style. But it seems like he and dev team just doesnt want to do it. And its okay.
That's OK for me too, but the environment they created is at odds with itself - reducing its overall artistic impact. Dramatically - compared to more coherent worlds they crafted in other titles.
Alt Apr 22, 2022 @ 5:04am 
Originally posted by gordonshumway:
Originally posted by Sinderlok:
See, thats where you wrong. From soft doesnt make RPG's like Skyrim, Witcher etc. Their games have more "game" aspect to it. Most other RPG of this calibre are closer to interactive movie than to a game. Not everyone likes to talk for hours with different NPCs.

I personally wont mind, at some point, get from Miyakaki game with a lot of interactive NPC, dialogues and cutscenes. In the vein of the Witcher, for example, just to experience how his story would look and feel in that kind of style. But it seems like he and dev team just doesnt want to do it. And its okay.
That's OK for me too, but the environment they created is at odds with itself - reducing its overall artistic impact. Dramatically - compared to more coherent worlds they crafted in other titles.
I didnt get that feeling. From the outside perspective it looks like NPC going about their buisness. Soldiers patrol, fight, sit around campfire. There funeral processions in some of the locations. Regular people in rags doing their stuff too, some dont even attack you. Academy of mages is at war with everyone. so it is understandable why they attack you. You need to undrstand that your character is at the point in the story of this world where there is essentially a war going out between factions. The only people who talk to you, besides Volcan Manor and other tarnished, is those who do not belong to any faction. Sure mb some things could be done another way to increase artistic impact, but probably would be at a cost of gameplay. Because how are your going to do it without adding a lot more npc dialogues?
Jester Apr 24, 2022 @ 2:39pm 
Originally posted by Tao314zdin:
Because you came there to murder, robe and loot?

I mean there is also guidance of grace or what not, but 99% of what tarnished are doing is murdering robbing and looting.

Those who do not attack tarnished just do not want to die immediately the bloodthirsty bastard.
Only the shardbearers otherwise the Tarnished(You) is pretty chill. If we were a murdering barbarian with no discrimination and incapable of discussion there wouldn't be any NPCs.
I agree. In Dark Souls 1 the people from the east who travelled to the land after the undead curse/hollow spread and took over the forest would stop attacking you in the woods after you join their covenant.
In hollow knight the mantis would stop attacking you as they are also a species unaffected by the corruption
buttchin Feb 13, 2024 @ 11:18pm 
Originally posted by Jester:
Dark souls is that everyone is hollowed or demons/dragons,etc and then in Bloodborne people are going ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ because of the blood.

But what about Elden ring? I don't think there's a good enough lore reason to justify this.
It's also a bit silly when you're also attending the Radahn Festival which should be very festive and respected occasion to the warriors attempting to give Radahn an honorable death but it's KOS just outside. Also suspend your disbelief when you're allied with people in position of power and his/her men is just again wailing on you in their territory lol.
Like ♥♥♥♥ you would think joining Volcano manor the one guarding the door would give you some courtesy :(.
Yea, its called game logic dumbo
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Date Posted: Apr 22, 2022 @ 3:26am
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