Using Boluses in a duel

[Deykar]

Is kinda scummy. Its basically a healing item and you can invalidate someones build with it entirely without any investment or risk on your part. If its a regular invasion go ahead, do whatever you want, but in a fair 1v1 duel it shouldnt be allowed.

Change my mind.

[The Black Baron]

Then don't use cheap stuff. Do you expect people just to take it while you posion/scarlet rot/ bleed them and run away fro 5 minutes?

[Krazzy Kracker 1]

Idk man this one is hard to say. I mean if consumables are allowed they all are. I guess you have to just keep up the pressure so they cant use them. Besides I think the whole purpose of poison and such is not to inflict it and run away and play defensively its to proc it and add that as an extra small damage and distraction to the opponent.

[urabe mikoto]

Since when?

[Arctic]

nah i think they are fine to use for a start youd have to menu swap them in, then they take time to eat so you leave yourself vulnerable using them but also they are just somthing like blue flask. if we are going down this route then stopp all types of regen.

the only healing i dont think shuld be used it flask

[Lord Bob]

In my opinion it's really not. The only thing frowned upon in duels is chugging, which I don't get as well to be completely honest.

If you feel your entire build is invalidated by someone using an item which is easily craftable, your build might not be that good after all.
Are you simply expecting your opponent to die of rot or poison after poking him three times?
Would you just die like that? Or would you also do something to get rid of it?

[Deykar]

Originally posted by The Black Baron:

Then don't use cheap stuff. Do you expect people just to take it while you posion/scarlet rot/ bleed them and run away fro 5 minutes?

Oh so if i decide that what you use is cheap, then i'm allowed to heal?

[Dreadnaught]

Originally posted by Deykar:

Is kinda scummy. Its basically a healing item and you can invalidate someones build with it entirely without any investment or risk on your part. If its a regular invasion go ahead, do whatever you want, but in a fair 1v1 duel it shouldnt be allowed.

Change my mind.

Use more statuses. Mainhand cold enchant, off hand with scarlet rot + poison enchant
The more time they waste using boluses, the more free phys and opposite DoT gets reapplied

[MOSLEY]

Yeah, let me just stand here and die while you go completely passive, do absolutely nothing and win anyway. Bad take.

[Deykar]

Originally posted by Lord Bob:

In my opinion it's really not. The only thing frowned upon in duels is chugging, which I don't get as well to be completely honest.

If you feel your entire build is invalidated by someone using an item which is easily craftable, your build might not be that good after all.
Are you simply expecting your opponent to die of rot or poison after poking him three times?
Would you just die like that? Or would you also do something very simple against it?

So what? Poison and rot arent insta death, they still have time to pressure you and kill you. On the other hand there are weapon arts and spells in this game which basically oneshot you.

[Lord Bob]

Originally posted by Deykar:

Originally posted by The Black Baron:

Then don't use cheap stuff. Do you expect people just to take it while you posion/scarlet rot/ bleed them and run away fro 5 minutes?

Oh so if i decide that what you use is cheap, then i'm allowed to heal?

You can do whatever you want. As a matter of fact, people can play their game however they enjoy it. It's their playstyle, you don't have to agree with it.

[Mister B]

I'd say it's fair game since weapons cause builds up even when you dodge them which is stupid in itself. There's no reason to suffer bleed, frost, etc... if you dodge something.

[MOSLEY]

Originally posted by Abandoned King:

Originally posted by Deykar:

Is kinda scummy. Its basically a healing item and you can invalidate someones build with it entirely without any investment or risk on your part. If its a regular invasion go ahead, do whatever you want, but in a fair 1v1 duel it shouldnt be allowed.

Change my mind.

Use more statuses. Mainhand cold enchant, off hand with scarlet rot + poison enchant
The more time they waste using boluses, the more free phys and opposite DoT gets reapplied

Or use status effects to increase the damage that you deal instead of landing a couple of hits and thinking that you're entitled to a free win because you put poison on your weapon, lmao.

[ WraithGear]

if you needed the bleed proc to win, do you really deserve to win? status items on the bar is a direct reaction to pvp using blood so hard. sometimes the opponent is ready to counter you and you have to pull out something other then L2 spam to win.

[Deykar]

Originally posted by MOSLEY:

Yeah, let me just stand here and die while you go completely passive, do absolutely nothing and win anyway. Bad take.

Your fault for allowing them to poison you in the first place.

[MOSLEY]

Originally posted by Deykar:

Originally posted by MOSLEY:

Yeah, let me just stand here and die while you go completely passive, do absolutely nothing and win anyway. Bad take.

Your fault for allowing them to poison you in the first place.

And your fault for allowing them to use boluses.

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