Poise and Collosal weapons need a buff. In general strength.

[CompactCassette]

The title basically.

[chewonthis]

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Escrito originalmente por gh0stwizard:

Haha. Such combo is working with ANY melee weapons. Ofc if only do jump attacks and you like them, e.g jumping attacks fan. In the end it all leads to be the fan of fast bleed weapons or any other OP weapons.

Hell, guys, when talking about poise damage of collosal weapons, we speak about pve. As I have said, collosal weapons deal the SAME amount of poise damage per second as any other weapons do. But, with very fast enemies you will got hits, meantime fast weapons users will avoid them with rolls, just because their end animation faster.

Try and do tests vs Bell Tearing Knight with roll + attack, just attacking R2/R1 doesn't matter, you may try use collosal weapon + any shield. I know your conclusions: use jump+R2, use parry. Again, I can do this with any weapons and damage per sec will be better.

EDIT: As of pvp, collosal weapons don't use their knock back feat. You can't hit player lying on the ground. And it would be better if it will get fixed or knock back effect must be totally removed.

Of course you can do it with any melee weapon, but a dagger or a katana won't hit as hard with one jump attack than a Collosal Weapon. Big weapons always benefit from relative % boni, because they have a much higher amount of AR, while fast weapons benefit from absolute numbers. So, all my above mentioned boni will add +X% to your current weapon's AR, which is better suited on a Collosal Weapon than a little dagger and it is not even maxed out. You can still add Golden Vow (+15% damage), Flame, grant me Strength! (+20% to physical and fire damage), Flask of Woundrous Physick (+20% damage), Commander's Standard (+20% damage) and other damage increasing Talismans like the Fire Scorpion Talisman (+12% damage) to your weapon. If you change the affinity of your Collosal Weapon to Fire and use everything I mentioned, then you will get a total amount of +192% more damage to your current weapon's AR.

If you or other people are not believing me, then watch these videos.

1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzFv0L_FIfE

2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnsfycE1fgs

Why do people keep suggesting golden vow with flame grant me strength. News flash. Do golden vow. check your stats. do flame grant me. recheck stats. They don't stack. you can only use one or other.........it does stack with commanders standard physick and perfumer.. incants only appear to scale in there category so if using erdtree incants use erdtree. if using flame use flame.....don't mix incant buffs.....

[Tiasmoon]

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Escrito originalmente por Tiasmoon:

Cherry picking.
For when you have no argument!

How exactly is mentioning that Colossal Weapons are OP instead of ''not viable'' ''cherry picking''? Do you have an argument too? Or was your point just to be ironic?

[Talon Rose]

Escrito originalmente por Tiasmoon:

Escrito originalmente por The loudest shadow:

Cherry picking.
For when you have no argument!

How exactly is mentioning that Colossal Weapons are OP instead of ''not viable'' ''cherry picking''? :Tio: Do you have an argument too? Or was your point just to be ironic? :Altina:

Thing is not viable.
"WELL IN THIS ONE VERY SPECIFIC INSTANCE ONLY AGAINST A BASIC MELEE HUMANOID ITS VIABLE"

....and?
And the other 99% of the game?
Mobs? High stagger ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥?
I had an argument, I made it. I got subjective garbage with no backing back for it :-P

[Behelit]

3 / 4 shotting bosses with my colossal hammer. Not sure how much more powerful you want to make 'm lol.

[Behelit]

Escrito originalmente por chewonthis:

Why do people keep suggesting golden vow with flame grant me strength. News flash. Do golden vow. check your stats. do flame grant me. recheck stats. They don't stack. you can only use one or other.........it does stack with commanders standard physick and perfumer.. incants only appear to scale in there category so if using erdtree incants use erdtree. if using flame use flame.....don't mix incant buffs.....

Do Flame first, then golden vow. Checked the stats. Increased 2 times. My routine? Flame, Golden Vow, Grease. Each step increases the attack power in status screen, unless they patched it yesterday.

[Tiasmoon]

Escrito originalmente por The loudest shadow:

Escrito originalmente por Tiasmoon:

How exactly is mentioning that Colossal Weapons are OP instead of ''not viable'' ''cherry picking''? Do you have an argument too? Or was your point just to be ironic?

Thing is not viable.
"WELL IN THIS ONE VERY SPECIFIC INSTANCE ONLY AGAINST A BASIC MELEE HUMANOID ITS VIABLE"

....and?
And the other 99% of the game?
Mobs? High stagger ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥?
I had an argument, I made it. I got subjective garbage with no backing back for it :-P

The other 99% of the game? You do the same exact thing. I didnt name a specific exception. I named one of the endgame bosses to show just how stupidly powerful it is.

Man, we need a facepalm award for when jesters arent good enough.

Escrito originalmente por The loudest shadow:

I got subjective garbage with no backing back for it :-P

Keep up the irony man.

[CompactCassette]

Escrito originalmente por Tiasmoon:

Escrito originalmente por The loudest shadow:

Thing is not viable.
"WELL IN THIS ONE VERY SPECIFIC INSTANCE ONLY AGAINST A BASIC MELEE HUMANOID ITS VIABLE"

....and?
And the other 99% of the game?
Mobs? High stagger ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥?
I had an argument, I made it. I got subjective garbage with no backing back for it :-P

The other 99% of the game? You do the same exact thing. I didnt name a specific exception. I named one of the endgame bosses to show just how stupidly powerful it is.

Man, we need a facepalm award for when jesters arent good enough.

Escrito originalmente por The loudest shadow:

I got subjective garbage with no backing back for it :-P

Keep up the irony man.

You have to be overlevelled to finish radahn in 3 shots with a colossal weapon. Source? Myself. I had a painful time fighting radahn with the ruins GS+5 at 75 RL but somehow managed it within few tries. Then there's my friend who did radahn with a dex arcane build at the same RL and +11 uchigatana dual wield and demolished the boss by proccing bleed within a minute whereas I was struggling to get an opening just for a measly amount of damage. Mind you the fight was without any summons.

[Tiasmoon]

Radagon, not Radahn. How does one overlevel the second last boss of the game?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2789571980

That's not optimized either. I could hit him for half of his hp or more if I cared enough. (that is not the most effective way to dps, tho)

You could use those same Uchigatana's your friend did (katanas arent dex only) to get the same results as them. That is bleed being too strong, not the weapon type.

[Alexandre]

Strength build should be the only build allowed, that's how the game was originaly intended to be played, Miyazaki create souls series inspired on Berserk

[CompactCassette]

Escrito originalmente por Tiasmoon:

Radagon, not Radahn. How does one overlevel the second last boss of the game?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2789571980

That's not optimized either. I could hit him for half of his hp or more if I cared enough. (that is not the most effective way to dps, tho)

You could use those same Uchigatana's your friend did (katanas arent dex only) to get the same results as them. That is bleed being too strong, not the weapon type.

I mentioned radahn to prove that colossals and even to some extent GS and GAs are easily outclassed by any other weapon type which is like midway into game.

[Tiasmoon]

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Escrito originalmente por Behelit:

3 / 4 shotting bosses with my colossal hammer. Not sure how much more powerful you want to make 'm lol.

Which bosses? What do you use? Giant-Crusher? Both? Who gave you a second one?

Its far from the only strong Colossal weapon. You dont need two identical weapons to 'powerstance' them, just have to use the same type of weapon.

[Kain]

The problem with colossal weapons isn't that you can't gitgud, but how boring the build gets.

You don't have dynamic fights, all you do is wait and spam the same attacks over and over again because of the recovery time.

[Mad Marduk]

I really just want the Greatsword move set from DS3 back instead of no angle horizontal slash, jumping horizontal slash, and a rolling poke.

[CompactCassette]

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Balance adjustments

Increased Colossal Swords/Colossal weapons attack speed and lowered their recovery time. Jump attack not included.
Increased the two-handed attack damage of Colossal Swords/Colossal Weapons. Jump attack not included.
Increased physical block rate and guard boost of the Colossal Sword, Colossal Weapons, Great Sword, Great Hammer, Great Axe, Great Spear, and Halberd weapon classes.

From Patch 1.04

[Tom]

Escrito originalmente por CompactCassette:

Escrito originalmente por author:

Balance adjustments

Increased Colossal Swords/Colossal weapons attack speed and lowered their recovery time. Jump attack not included.
Increased the two-handed attack damage of Colossal Swords/Colossal Weapons. Jump attack not included.
Increased physical block rate and guard boost of the Colossal Sword, Colossal Weapons, Great Sword, Great Hammer, Great Axe, Great Spear, and Halberd weapon classes.

From Patch 1.04

Oooohh nice!