Is there a catalyst that enables Sorceries and Incantations?

[The Infinite Archiver]

Just curious, since I want to mix both the Briars sorceries and Bloodflame Incantations.

[fauxpas]

Not to my knowledge.

[Deadeye64]

Sadly no hybrid catalysts in this game

[Jäveln]

nope that wouldve been interesting

[Sabaithal]

Don't think so. And it wouldn't be of much use, because you would still need the stats for the sorceries/incantations themselves.

Unless you are already investing stats into both and just want a convenient tool that does both instead of having to switch. Though it should be noted those spell tools in previous titles always did vastly inferior damage compared to the specialized tools.

[Falleax]

There was a talisman in Demon Souls that could do this, I hope they put one in the DLC.

[Sakhari]

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Unless you are already investing stats into both and just want a convenient tool that does both instead of having to switch.

That's pretty much the draw, yeah. It'd be nice to have a seal that could cast Unseen Form and Assassin's Approach or all of the 'Mist' spells - low-requirement utilities that don't rely on scaling much, if at all - without needing to use two weapon slots to do it. I'd use it, anyway just for the sake of appearances if nothing else.

[Frozen Dervish]

Originally posted by Sakhari:

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Unless you are already investing stats into both and just want a convenient tool that does both instead of having to switch.

That's pretty much the draw, yeah. It'd be nice to have a seal that could cast Unseen Form and Assassin's Approach or all of the 'Mist' spells - low-requirement utilities that don't rely on scaling much, if at all - without needing to use two weapon slots to do it. I'd use it, anyway just for the sake of appearances if nothing else.

Just wield the catalyst for both? Prince of Death Staff is int/faith scaling as is Golden Order Seal so just swap them depending on the spell.

[Sakhari]

Originally posted by Frozen Dervish:

Just wield the catalyst for both? Prince of Death Staff is int/faith scaling as is Golden Order Seal so just swap them depending on the spell.

Originally posted by Sakhari:

- without needing to use two weapon slots to do it.

As was said, items like this existed in previous games and that's why. I'm not going to lose sleep over this game not having one but it was a nice, convenient option to have for low-requirement utilities where scaling isn't a relevant factor.

[Angarvin]

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Don't think so. And it wouldn't be of much use, because you would still need the stats for the sorceries/incantations themselves.

Unless you are already investing stats into both and just want a convenient tool that does both instead of having to switch. Though it should be noted those spell tools in previous titles always did vastly inferior damage compared to the specialized tools.

there are incantations that require int and there are sorceries that require faith.

[Sabaithal]

Originally posted by Angarvin:

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Don't think so. And it wouldn't be of much use, because you would still need the stats for the sorceries/incantations themselves.

Unless you are already investing stats into both and just want a convenient tool that does both instead of having to switch. Though it should be noted those spell tools in previous titles always did vastly inferior damage compared to the specialized tools.

there are incantations that require int and there are sorceries that require faith.

Not denying that, but that's not what I was referring to.

[justfaded]

Originally posted by Sakhari:

Originally posted by Frozen Dervish:

Just wield the catalyst for both? Prince of Death Staff is int/faith scaling as is Golden Order Seal so just swap them depending on the spell.

Originally posted by Sakhari:

- without needing to use two weapon slots to do it.

As was said, items like this existed in previous games and that's why. I'm not going to lose sleep over this game not having one but it was a nice, convenient option to have for low-requirement utilities where scaling isn't a relevant factor.

The reason I liked it was that it's cooler to have a glowing hand rather than a wand like Harry Potter or something.

[Sabaithal]

Originally posted by justfaded:

The reason I liked it was that it's cooler to have a glowing hand rather than a wand like Harry Potter or something.

....do you have any idea how cool it would be in real life to just make a regal dismissive gesture with a polished stick and make something nearby explode? If you don't think that's cool at first you don't have a soul.

[meow]

this has always been the realm of DLC, not base game

[Angarvin]

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Originally posted by Angarvin:

there are incantations that require int and there are sorceries that require faith.

Not denying that, but that's not what I was referring to.

i'm saying you don't need to invest in two stats to find yourself wanting to cast both sorceries and incantaions and as such the sorc-incan casting item would be useful.
i'm not trying to start an argument, just pointing out that you don't need two stats.

[Sabaithal]

Originally posted by Angarvin:

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Not denying that, but that's not what I was referring to.

i'm saying you don't need to invest in two stats to find yourself wanting to cast both sorceries and incantaions and as such the sorc-incan casting item would be useful.
i'm not trying to start an argument, just pointing out that you don't need two stats.

You would still need two stats though? Yes, I know the tools themselves have their own stats attached to them, but the spells themselves do as well.

AS IN, if you invest in only INT, and got a staff that could cast incantations, good. But the incantation you want to use requires like 30 FAI to actually use, regardless of the tool. So you would still need both unless you use a bunch of stat boosting equipment.