I want to force Miyazaki to play his own game, and break one of his fingers every time he dies to a boss. If he asks why, I'll just whisper in his ear: "git gud." TM

[mrpurple]

The bosses bring this game down a lot.

Terrible design.

[Utopian]

Why do people hate Malenia so much? I had so much fun fighting her, even though she was by far the most difficult Souls boss I've fought and I died a lot.

[Xenos]

Originally posted by BeeTheImmortal:

Why do people hate Malenia so much? I had so much fun fighting her, even though she was by far the most difficult Souls boss I've fought and I died a lot.

- Healing on every single hit, even if you block it, is cheap. She also heals if she hits allies that are already dead and going through their death animation, so a summon or phantom dying can end up healing her by 40% or more if she was Waterfowling on them.
- Waterfowl is guaranteed death unless you have Bloodhound Step or you're so paranoid about it that you're already half the arena away because you saw her jump.

Remove or nerf those two and I guarantee you'd see far less complaints about her.

[Panic Fire]

Originally posted by Xenos:

Originally posted by BeeTheImmortal:

Why do people hate Malenia so much? I had so much fun fighting her, even though she was by far the most difficult Souls boss I've fought and I died a lot.

- Healing on every single hit, even if you block it, is cheap. She also heals if she hits allies that are already dead and going through their death animation, so a summon or phantom dying can end up healing her by 40% or more if she was Waterfowling on them.
- Waterfowl is guaranteed death unless you have Bloodhound Step or you're so paranoid about it that you're already half the arena away because you saw her jump.

Remove or nerf those two and I guarantee you'd see far less complaints about her.

You do realize you can dodge waterfowl in melee range right? With out bloodhound step....

[Anatolius]

Yeah, dungeons are pretty painful to do, especially lategame ones where burial watchdogs are normal enemies ...

[Lochlann]

I've seen someone say these exact words before on some other forum

[Netsa]

I like how everyone is talking about Miyazaki fighting the bosses, as if he's doing it SL 1, melee-only. He probably spammed Mimic just like everyone else.

Also, someone posted a video in another thread of an easy way of dodging Malenia's combo. Dodge forward, wait, dodge again, then move behind her, basically. Upon watching it (since I haven't fought and likely won't fight this boss), it's the kind of dodge that no one's going to naturally do without "figuring it out" over dozens of deaths. If that attack is unblockable as well, I can see what the complaint is. Of course, you're still going to get the people who think it's fair and balanced because they think the point of Souls is to just die a hundred times.

Originally posted by Panic Fire:

Player skill in the game is always rewarded and every single tool can be with enough player skill used to beat the game. If you are purposefully limiting what tools you can use to solve an issue then you are "challenging" yourself to play a certain way. Thus if you want to be a boss in your self imposed "challenge run" the only thing left you can do is improve on yourself. AKA git gud.

You're confusing skill with knowledge. Elden Ring does not reward skill, it rewards knowledge.

Spamming Bleed, Rot, and OP Ashes on the bosses isn't much different from spamming Mimic, but that's fine since you can spam all four. Refusing to use this stuff is basically just trying to play the game as a normal knight, the same way you could play the previous Souls games. The fact that trying to do that, trying to just use a sword, is considered a "challenge run" now speaks for itself. If Elden Ring rewarded skill, that wouldn't be the case, but it doesn't. If anything, it punishes skill. ()

[nwad]

Why would he fall into his own trap? He's laughing all the way to the bank, and needs all those fingers to count his money.

[xplozeve]

I want to force him to play on PC, everytime he stutters, he gives me a dollar.

[ZTL-Altima]

Fun fact:

In DS3 interviews he said that one of the requirements for game approval was that he himself had to be able to beat it.

In ER interview he said he would not play it lol.

[Humpenstilzchen]

Originally posted by Parsify:

Fun fact:
In ER interview he said he would not play it lol.

He probably finds it too frustrating

[Izlude]

Originally posted by Parsify:

Fun fact:

In DS3 interviews he said that one of the requirements for game approval was that he himself had to be able to beat it.

In ER interview he said he would not play it lol.

He clearly changed his mind then
https://www.pcgamer.com/miyazaki-likes-to-play-a-tough-elden-ring-character-that-can-trade-blows/

[GuRu Asaki]

Originally posted by mrpurple:

The bosses bring this game down a lot.

Terrible design.

I want to force the Game Dev to try to play their own Game, & everytime a White Crash loads, They loose a finger to a hammer as it's bashed off over the side of a table...

The things we come up with when
Game Devs don't deliver to their customers.

[ZTL-Altima]

Originally posted by Philogosten:

Originally posted by Parsify:

Fun fact:

In DS3 interviews he said that one of the requirements for game approval was that he himself had to be able to beat it.

In ER interview he said he would not play it lol.

He clearly changed his mind then
https://www.pcgamer.com/miyazaki-likes-to-play-a-tough-elden-ring-character-that-can-trade-blows/

Yeah, I read that one. Where he said he would not play it was after network test, something on the lines of it being pointless since for him there would be no surprises. At the end of the day anything the developer says to smalltime game "journalists" is just things with the classic "let's end it quick" intent.

Only really worthy interviews I think are the ones on the Design Works books.

[vamirez]

Miyazaki likes summoning and having epic fun battles. He doesn't understand your issues. I don't understand them either.

[MagaWolf]

Originally posted by mrpurple:

The bosses bring this game down a lot.

Terrible design.

He will just cop out and say it's too hard.