Perfumer crossbow burst needs a massive nerf

[Dr. Professor Commander]

Seriously... a regular enemy should NOT have the capacity to drain your entire health bar in one attack when a pretty extreme majority of the game's bosses cannot do the same. That burst is a perfect example of poor design. These guys are worse than the Pests because of this BS attack. Radagon and the Elden Beast couldn't even do that kind of damage to me. Malenia's Waterfowl Dance even has to connect twice. Why is some regular douchebag doing more damage than the game's supposed "most powerful enemies"?

Another example of bad or lazy design would be an enemy like the Ulcerated Tree Spirit spamming the same grab attack 5 times in a row. I know for a fact that you can program an enemy not to have the same attack repeat consecutively while still maintaining a dynamic attack pattern for them lol. So I'm convinced FS is full of lazy programmers... then again it's also entirely possible that they just aren't skilled enough to know how to program enemies that way without breaking something else in the game, suggesting that they need to "git gud" themselves.

[cooperman]

Originally posted by The Dubious Doobie:

Seriously... a regular enemy should NOT have the capacity to drain your entire health bar in one attack when a pretty extreme majority of the game's bosses cannot do the same. That burst is a perfect example of poor design. These guys are worse than the Pests because of this BS attack. Radagon and the Elden Beast couldn't even do that kind of damage to me. Malenia's Waterfowl Dance even has to connect twice. Why is some regular douchebag doing more damage than the game's supposed "most powerful enemies"?

Another example of bad or lazy design would be an enemy like the Ulcerated Tree Spirit spamming the same grab attack 5 times in a row. I know for a fact that you can program an enemy not to have the same attack repeat consecutively while still maintaining a dynamic attack pattern for them lol. So I'm convinced FS is full of lazy programmers... then again it's also entirely possible that they just aren't skilled enough to know how to program enemies that way without breaking something else in the game, suggesting that they need to "git gud" themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex4ARqzk_r0&ab_channel=FlameofAmbition

[i whiffed that]

Elden Beast can one shot me and I have 50 vigor.

[Tiasmoon]

These guys have high hp. People arent going to be able to oneshot them when playing through the game.

OP is correct that the damage on the bolts is overtuned. However since these enemies appear in few spots and in the capital they are blocked by most of the terrain, its not really an issue.

Originally posted by YeetmoBaggins:

Thank you for the only sensible input bro. A breath of fresh air. Truly <3

The person you were arguing against also pointed out that you werent being sensible:

Originally posted by Eventide:

"Use a faster spell" "Use carian greatsword"... what? Then you say gavel of haima? Or cannon of haima?.. You literally said use a faster spell then list slow spells? And all more aoe-oriented spells as well.. it's like you never played a sorcerer and just looked up a few names to be like "SEE THESE WOULD WORK!"

Carnian Greatsword can work but only if you time it well with the attacks and make use of its extra reach. The others is just asking to get killed when trying to use it against fast ranged attacks. Because all of these (including the Greatsword) are slow spells.

Originally posted by YeetmoBaggins:

If you want a fast spell, go with pebble or carian slicer. Your choice.

You were the one to suggest ''fast'' spells, while listing only slow spells.

Slicer? That wont work against these guys because they have rapiers with many piercing attacks. They will outrange you. But hey, atleast you correctly named a fast spell this time.

Like them, I very much question if you even played mage. Those are very basic mixups to make.

Originally posted by YeetmoBaggins:

Literally just disagreeing with you and giving actual reasons why.

You give really poor reasons, and dont even realise their arguments completely thrash yours. Even despite you being the last to reply. That's just arguing for the sake of it, and you arent even doing a good job at that.

Dont argue when your drunk bro. You just get confused about what is sensible and what isnt.


Besides, I dont think this discussion was even about people having trouble with them. But rather one particular attack being overtuned. Which it is.

[Terminator]

hello im 175 level with 60 vigor and im still being killed by Gravity. I demand Srom Foftware to fix gravity so i could fly like in Prototype.

[Aria Athena]

It's bs, what can you do. You don't notice them in a corner, or they are hiding below the stairs, and poof, you dead. Even with 80 poise you get stun locked.

[Monk]

Yes, they are an annoyingly good enemy, if you are paying attention you have plenty of time to dodge them, but they punish hard for mistakes, on a plus, it makes murdering them all the more enjoyable.

There are a few easy counters beyond just dodging, taje a big ol shield, maje yourself invulnerable, snipe them back with bows or cross bows, bug them out on scenery / walls, stealth, go all solid snake and hide in a box...

The enemy I hate is the giant demon birds, not the night time boss ones, they overgrown rotting crow things, screw those things I actively avoid them, in fact, I discovered the farming spot involving them (before it exploded) specifically trying to find a way to kill them off to explore that area (and you can kill them both from the cliff top, not uf you want to farm, but the pulley bow can snipe them both with time).

[Terminator]

Originally posted by Monk:

The enemy I hate is the giant demon birds, not the night time boss ones, they overgrown rotting crow things, screw those things I actively avoid them, in fact, I discovered the farming spot involving them (before it exploded) specifically trying to find a way to kill them off to explore that area (and you can kill them both from the cliff top, not uf you want to farm, but the pulley bow can snipe them both with time).

oh man i hate those too so much. they freak me out when i just look at em.

[Monk]

Yeah, they SUCK and seem to eat what ever I throw at them like it's a tooth pick.

Moonveil, Ash of war or slashes, nothing, blsidds greats word Ash, hurts, but not enough to not get eaten, guts sword, yo slow yo get them staggered, bows (not on a cliff) too slow and low damage, magic weapons with 70 int, tickle, tickle, CHOMP.

Magical nukes used to 1 shot full grown dragons 2 at a time or bosses, dodge, CHOMP.

Bleed, good luck getting enough hits in, ride torrent, chomp, no more mount, CHOMP CHOMP combo eaten.

I swear I due more to those things in total than any individual boss.

I am not ashamed to admit it, I struggle with those things, though, I've not pulled in a summon as I refuse to do do in open world, I will suffer, I will not given the demon tweeties the satisfaction of seeing a summon!

[Terminator]

Originally posted by Monk:

Yeah, they SUCK and seem to eat what ever I throw at them like it's a tooth pick.

Moonveil, Ash of war or slashes, nothing, blsidds greats word Ash, hurts, but not enough to not get eaten, guts sword, yo slow yo get them staggered, bows (not on a cliff) too slow and low damage, magic weapons with 70 int, tickle, tickle, CHOMP.

Magical nukes used to 1 shot full grown dragons 2 at a time or bosses, dodge, CHOMP.

Bleed, good luck getting enough hits in, ride torrent, chomp, no more mount, CHOMP CHOMP combo eaten.

I swear I due more to those things in total than any individual boss.

I am not ashamed to admit it, I struggle with those things, though, I've not pulled in a summon as I refuse to do do in open world, I will suffer, I will not given the demon tweeties the satisfaction of seeing a summon!

The only thing that helped me was Radahns Great Blades Art of War.
Who made Marika the final boss when we have some in those blood lakes?

[Choko]

Need nerf I agreed, no point to talking to Muricans scrubs. Also so out of place.

[Sen]

OP made a thread admitting he only knows how to play by walking in a straight line and can't dodge the very obvious cloud they throw out

[SunsetAmethyst]

Might be a bug, much like this insane dog is.

https://youtu.be/ex4ARqzk_r0

[KaiserSchnitzel]

Originally posted by The Dubious Doobie:

Seriously... a regular enemy should NOT have the capacity to drain your entire health bar in one attack when a pretty extreme majority of the game's bosses cannot do the same. That burst is a perfect example of poor design. These guys are worse than the Pests because of this BS attack. Radagon and the Elden Beast couldn't even do that kind of damage to me. Malenia's Waterfowl Dance even has to connect twice. Why is some regular douchebag doing more damage than the game's supposed "most powerful enemies"?

Another example of bad or lazy design would be an enemy like the Ulcerated Tree Spirit spamming the same grab attack 5 times in a row. I know for a fact that you can program an enemy not to have the same attack repeat consecutively while still maintaining a dynamic attack pattern for them lol. So I'm convinced FS is full of lazy programmers... then again it's also entirely possible that they just aren't skilled enough to know how to program enemies that way without breaking something else in the game, suggesting that they need to "git gud" themselves.

Yes clearly From does not know what they are doing and your intellect is superior

[Sierra146888]

have you tried some fire resist talismans and consumables? may be it`s gonna reduce some damage idk

[Terminator]

Originally posted by Sierra146888:

have you tried some fire resist talismans and consumables? may be it`s gonna reduce some damage idk

i think he needs a spacebar talisman more than those.