Magic is OP and Mele Underpowered and this is proof

[Necromanu Shi Atat]

I will show you why Magic is to OP for a souls game, and i think devs want to casualize the game which for what game they made it is a huge mistake

I hope Bloodborne 2 will not be Walk in the Park like this

Video with level 14 my Crucible Fight on Mage

Minute 41 Fight Starts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr9n7yONKqE

[Necromanu Shi Atat]

So do you think is ok? and offcourse is just a small thing can do mage .. there are tons of spells and incantations kill any boss without to much skill

[DonJuanDoja]

no.

PVE: Mage > Dex > STR
PVP: Dex > STR > Mage

[Necromanu Shi Atat]

Originally posted by DonJuanDoja:

no.

PVE: Mage > Dex > STR
PVP: Dex > STR > Mage

Yeah bro this is bad special when you like to play as mele

[paul32]

I think Magic was always OP in every Souls game. (or blood arts in sekiro). And honestly? I think thats a great thing.

Souls game always have an "easy" mode?
Melee? Hard mode.
Bow? Medium Mode.
Magic? Easy mode.

Of course elden ring challenges this a bit, since some bosses can counter magic, but apart from that, I dont really think this a problem. As long as I dont fight against other people.

[SLAIN]

Originally posted by NECROMANU:

I will show you why Magic is to OP for a souls game, and i think devs want to casualize the game which for what game they made it is a huge mistake

I hope Bloodborne 2 will not be Walk in the Park like this

Video with level 14 my Crucible Fight on Mage

Minute 41 Fight Starts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr9n7yONKqE

If you kids are still playing solo, your playing it easy mode. Just a heads up :)

[Necromanu Shi Atat]

Originally posted by SLAIN:

Originally posted by NECROMANU:

I will show you why Magic is to OP for a souls game, and i think devs want to casualize the game which for what game they made it is a huge mistake

I hope Bloodborne 2 will not be Walk in the Park like this

Video with level 14 my Crucible Fight on Mage

Minute 41 Fight Starts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr9n7yONKqE

If you kids are still playing solo, your playing it easy mode. Just a heads up :)

Nice joke call me when you beat this boss at level 15

[Midnight]

INT builds can be melee as well. In fact on my Sorcerer the moonveil does more damage than any of my spells.

You can also cheese some stuff from range but then again DEX/STR can do that with status arrows and FTH/ARC can do that with incantations.

There is no magic/melee distinction.

[Frozen Dervish]

I dunno I've been having a super easy time as melee vs having played as a pure mage. I get to absorb hits, I get to deal a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ more damage, and bosses die much faster.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Frozen Dervish:

I dunno I've been having a super easy time as melee vs having played as a pure mage. I get to absorb hits, I get to deal a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ more damage, and bosses die much faster.

Indeed, melee leaves a lot more room for error just because you can tank hits.

[Necromanu Shi Atat]

Originally posted by Frozen Dervish:

I dunno I've been having a super easy time as melee vs having played as a pure mage. I get to absorb hits, I get to deal a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ more damage, and bosses die much faster.

Difference in Magic and Mele yes you can do the game easy ,

but no as easy as mage ... on mele to dont get 1 shoot you need to be over level which i hate like

Mage just use spells at half of level and kill the game

[kostasdx]

Magic has always been OP in Dark Souls and Elden Ring, nothing new here. But there is a drawback in using magic and that is simply the stat investment compared to a melee one.
Melees have more VIT and all flasks are on healing plus they are able to use more talisman slots.
Mages have to invest in Mind, they have to equip one or two talismans dedicated to magic and they also have to split their flasks to restore FP.
I think it is pretty balanced in that regard, plus in PvP mages can be killed quickly. They shine though in ganks during invasions.

[Zaskar]

Originally posted by NECROMANU:

I will show you why Magic is to OP for a souls game, and i think devs want to casualize the game which for what game they made it is a huge mistake

I hope Bloodborne 2 will not be Walk in the Park like this

Video with level 14 my Crucible Fight on Mage

Minute 41 Fight Starts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr9n7yONKqE

I honestly don't know what this video was supposed to show ? You beat him mostly by parrying his attacks, your spells did less than half of his HP.

Also, magic isn't OP on their own. What makes them really powerful in ER is the fact that you can summon a spirit to take the aggro while you're safely casting and have no pressure.

By the way, people tends to forget that magic was always powerful in Souls games. First Dark Souls' pyromancies were quite OP and later in the DLC, the hexes can destroy bosses. Miracles in DkS2 were OP as hell and remained very good even after the nerf. All school of magic were also powerful in DkS3.

[warmy bear]

Gamers "They don't have to acquiesce to you, respect the creator's vision"

*devs create something*

Gamers "Wait, no. Not like that"

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by NECROMANU:

Originally posted by SLAIN:

If you kids are still playing solo, your playing it easy mode. Just a heads up :)

Nice joke call me when you beat this boss at level 15

I mean, here's a harder boss beaten at lvl 1 in the exact same way as you did it. Parry is OP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k35WGeQJOIw

[Necromanu Shi Atat]

Originally posted by Zaskar:

Originally posted by NECROMANU:

I will show you why Magic is to OP for a souls game, and i think devs want to casualize the game which for what game they made it is a huge mistake

I hope Bloodborne 2 will not be Walk in the Park like this

Video with level 14 my Crucible Fight on Mage

Minute 41 Fight Starts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr9n7yONKqE

I honestly don't know what this video was supposed to show ? You beat him mostly by parrying his attacks, your spells did less than half of his HP.

Also, magic isn't OP on their own. What makes them really powerful in ER is the fact that you can summon a spirit to take the aggro while you're safely casting and have no pressure.

By the way, people tends to forget that magic was always powerful in Souls games. First Dark Souls' pyromancies were quite OP and later in the DLC, the hexes can destroy bosses. Miracles in DkS2 were OP as hell and remained very good even after the nerf. All school of magic were also powerful in DkS3.

Yeah bro i agree but pyro in ds1 is very limited on charges ,, which made a balance