If you only have 8-16gb of ram and no ssd.

[Sculelos]

Seriously try buying a USB card (32GB or less USB 2 or 3) and right click (on your drive from files) and enable ReadyBoost... It might just be enough to get this game to work good on your system. Provided you already have a somewhat decent CPU and GPU.

[Ariesxs]

I never actually tried RB, but isn't that suposed to be even slower than the virtual ram that windows use with the hdd space?

[Sculelos]

Originally posted by AriesXs:

I never actually tried RB, but isn't that suposed to be even slower than the virtual ram that windows use with the hdd space?

Yea, if you have no solid state drive it's absolutely much faster.

[Donaldo Trumpado]

Originally posted by AriesXs:

I never actually tried RB, but isn't that suposed to be even slower than the virtual ram that windows use with the hdd space?

This is correct. It's essentially an overflow extra-space page file. In the most basic terms, I NEVER recommend people fiddle with their page file or use techniques that enable or cause more paging of your hard drive. The solution is to add more RAM

[ToryJJ]

this is redneck as ♥♥♥♥, I love it.
lmfao

[Donaldo Trumpado]

Originally posted by Scoobydoo wr r u:

Originally posted by President Donald Trump:

This is correct. It's essentially an overflow extra-space page file. In the most basic terms, I NEVER recommend people fiddle with their page file or use techniques that enable or cause more paging of your hard drive. The solution is to add more RAM

Um, moving the page to flash will absolutely improve performance considerably in a low ram system & the point is, it's cheap.

Oh sure, until you run into a memory overrun and get a blue screen. Your page file is there for the situations in which your computer has no choice but to enact the use of a hard drive space for slower but available system memory. It's a remarkably bad idea to fiddle with allowing your computer to use more of it (source: I help build and test robotics systems as my job)

[BEEP!]

It's not great but yea it will help It's a cheep way to give you that extra little boost I used that method till I got a good 150$ SSD

[Ariesxs]

Originally posted by Scoobydoo wr r u:

Originally posted by President Donald Trump:

This is correct. It's essentially an overflow extra-space page file. In the most basic terms, I NEVER recommend people fiddle with their page file or use techniques that enable or cause more paging of your hard drive. The solution is to add more RAM

Um, moving the page to flash will absolutely improve performance considerably in a low ram system & the point is, it's cheap.

The thing is, SATA3 HDD (6gbps) should be quickier than most USB3.0 (5gbps). So, i don't think that is a performance gain. Actually, maybe a loss?

[Donaldo Trumpado]

Originally posted by Scoobydoo wr r u:

Originally posted by President Donald Trump:

Oh sure, until you run into a memory overrun and get a blue screen. Your page file is there for the situations in which your computer has no choice but to enact the use of a hard drive space for slower but available system memory. It's a remarkably bad idea to fiddle with allowing your computer to use more of it (source: I help build and test robotics systems as my job)

I don't care wtf your job is & I'm sure nobody else does either. They care if this works to improve performance in the most bottlenecked part of their PC. I've had all kinds of systems with high ram & hdd, low ram & hdd, high ram & ssd, low ram with ssd, with no pagefile, with pagefile on hdd, with pagefile on flash, with pagefile on SSD, etc.

No system has ever had technical problems by moving the pagefile from hdd to a faster medium with a remotely decent amount of space. If the pagefile device = system ram, it's fine. Seeing as the cost between a 8, 16 & 32GB flash drive is negligable the advice is very sound no matter what amount of ram in the context of the OP's suggestion.

Paging frequently on an SSD drastically reduces its lifespan due to hitting the r/w maximum much faster as a result of frequent, wholly unnecessary writes and reads. So yes it actually does cause problems that more RAM easily solves

[Sabaithal]

Originally posted by Scoobydoo wr r u:

I don't care wtf your job is & I'm sure nobody else does either. They care if this works to improve performance in the most bottlenecked part of their PC. I've had all kinds of systems with high ram & hdd, low ram & hdd, high ram & ssd, low ram with ssd, with no pagefile, with pagefile on hdd, with pagefile on flash, with pagefile on SSD, etc.

No system has ever had technical problems by moving the pagefile from hdd to a faster medium with a remotely decent amount of space. If the pagefile device = system ram, it's fine. Seeing as the cost between a 8, 16 & 32GB flash drive is negligable the advice is very sound no matter what amount of ram in the context of the OP's suggestion.

You really ought to listen to what he was saying instead of starting off with an insult. Because he's right by the way.

[weiss]

hmm my rig is this, sorry am too lazy to type it down and i cant copy and paste it from nvidia experience -_-
https://gyazo.com/06b9f896bd3f70babc320aa9d0b19de5
my SSD is solely for my operating system, nothing else. with other words, elden ring runs on my HDD and i have no issues, even loading times are only 3~ maybe max 10 seconds. the startup needs a little bit due to anticheat checking files but thats it, in like 15~20 secs is my game started and ready to play >_> ... damn SSD nerds. i mean yes, SSD´s are significantly faster but ... in elden rings case? nah ... not much of a difference. or my HDD is just fast iunno.

[Sabaithal]

Originally posted by Chiro:

hmm my rig is this, sorry am too lazy to type it down and i cant copy and paste it from nvidia experience -_-
https://gyazo.com/06b9f896bd3f70babc320aa9d0b19de5
my SSD is solely for my operating system, nothing else. with other words, elden ring runs on my HDD and i have no issues, even loading times are only 3~ maybe max 10 seconds. the startup needs a little bit due to anticheat checking files but thats it, in like 15~20 secs is my game started and ready to play >_> ... damn SSD nerds. i mean yes, SSD´s are significantly faster but ... in elden rings case? nah ... not much of a difference. or my HDD is just fast iunno.

I have about the same system on mine. SSD OS drive, HDD data drives. 99% of the time this machine has absolutely no problems with loading anything.

Now, I do get framerate drops with ER, but not severe ones, the game is still playable and it doesn't happen that often.

[Peelsepuuppi]

A Crucial MX500 at 500GB is 50 bucks. It's a good quality SATA SSD.
What on earth is someone's excuse not to have a basic SSD these days?

[Ariesxs]

Originally posted by Scoobydoo wr r u:

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

You really ought to listen to what he was saying instead of starting off with an insult. Because he's right by the way.

He appealed to authority. I did not insult anyone. I stated technical facts. If we're going to make appeals; I've been building my own computers & tweaking/compiling my own OS's for 25 years. The fact is it is a cheap way for people who's bottleneck is storage (which these days can make a huge problem) & do not have the means or want to upgrade their whole system; which can often be necessary just to upgrade the RAM. When simply using a flash drive for the pagefile can resolve the bottleneck.

Steam forum is starting to look like reddit... But i understood what you said, thank you for the answers

[weiss]

Originally posted by Scoobydoo wr r u:

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

You really ought to listen to what he was saying instead of starting off with an insult. Because he's right by the way.

He appealed to authority. I did not insult anyone. I stated technical facts. If we're going to make appeals; I've been building my own computers & tweaking/compiling my own OS's for 25 years. The fact is it is a cheap way for people who's bottleneck is storage (which these days can make a huge problem) & do not have the means or want to upgrade their whole system; which can often be necessary just to upgrade the RAM. When simply using a flash drive for the pagefile can resolve the bottleneck.

fun fact: peoples which build their own pc and dont get help from an IT side where it actually tells you that this and that component does not work well with this there break often their pcs. they putt so often stuff in and out that stuff breaks.

my old pc which i had before ran for nearly 12 years 24/7 ... while friends of mine had in this time 3 new pcs because their pc broke for some reason ... this new one is now nearly 2 years old and in this time had 2 of my friends already a breakdown on their pc ... i have no idea what peoples do with their pc´s to be honest.

those peoples which build their own pc´s often pay no attention to how well components harmonize with eachother. i seen a few topics here where peoples complained about how horrible elden ring runs on their pc and then seeing their specs made me giggle. like ram and vram and their tactrate is for example important. bottlenecking one of them is bad.... eh i could now into deep nerd talk but this would throw this topic way out into offtopic territory.

fact is, i am absolutely not surprised why this game runs on some peoples pc like trash because they think the best of the best in the tower case makes every game run perfect >_>.

[Donaldo Trumpado]

Originally posted by Scoobydoo wr r u:

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

You really ought to listen to what he was saying instead of starting off with an insult. Because he's right by the way.

He appealed to authority. I did not insult anyone. I stated technical facts. If we're going to make appeals; I've been building my own computers & tweaking/compiling my own OS's for 25 years. The fact is it is a cheap way for people who's bottleneck is storage (which these days can make a huge problem) & do not have the means or want to upgrade their whole system; which can often be necessary just to upgrade the RAM. When simply using a flash drive for the pagefile can resolve the bottleneck.

I literally said I work with scenarios in which this comes up. Take it however you want. Obviously you know better 🙄