They need to nerf moonveil

[Wasp_]

Atleast nerf damage to players

[ToryJJ]

Originally posted by orthostatic:

People ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about weapons when touchless builds can still kill them.

♥♥♥♥ em both tbh.

[Alexx]

well its even slower than Midir's katana too. its obviously really powerful, but if you missclick L2 then you are f^^... just need to gud and surpass anyone who uses it, i do too but alternate with other weapons, not funny using the same every time

[Wasp_]

Originally posted by orthostatic:

worth noting, you can't grease moonveil or enhance it with magic from what i've seen. it has a strong ability, sure, but that ability has tells. you can either dodge it or you are bad.

Dude who cares when it has incredible scaling. Two people spamming it doing more then half your health is not fun, you cannot commit to anything or else you get blasted and most likely die to a chain attack after it.

[Rinny]

Originally posted by Wasp_:

Originally posted by Grad:

No, it doesn't need a nerf.
People need to get gud and understand the Barrier spells are really good for once.
Barrier of gold for example reduces magic dmg by 60% for 70seconds.
There is a barrier spell for the all elements including physical.

Idk man why should I have to go out of my way just to survive the spam fest of it, why not just balance it for pvp? Legit invading is so ass rn.

Okay and then people move onto the next spam fest weapon
Que you crying about this new weapon
Rinse and repeat

[Boutus]

After a couple of invasions from Moon veil using players you will quickly develop a keen sense of when to dodge it and when to strike, it becomes more than doable once that happens, then because their moon veil tactic isn't working, they begin to panic, because they are one trick ponies, so master how to dodge it and position yourself to respond.

[Rinny]

People need to stop malding cause they cant dodge, next people are gonna ask to nerf glint stone pebble because they cant press O when the insanely easy telegraph shows up

[Turkwise]

Are there actually people here trying to say the moonveil isnt OP? What a bunch of clowns lmao, im assuming they just dont want their crutch kicked out from under them.

[Omastar]

Originally posted by Omastar:

Moonveil reminds me of Chikage from bloodborne, only really having 1-2 moves, but does insane damage, it's not too big of a problem with practice, but can be frustrating to deal with when not used to fighting it.

Originally posted by Dargsy:

I dunno. Every moonveil weeb I went up against I slapped.

in a 1v1 scenario with a bit of practice it's pretty easy to dodge, you just have to be careful, and when people spam it it becomes very preditcable.

The problem I have with it is when you're against a gank, if you try to commit to anything you get 50-80% your HP taken.

I recently took out a 3v1 all using moonveil, it's not impossible - it's just incredibly difficult, I had to play incredibly passively, I was using the pike + brass shield and I carefully and slowly took them out, they nearly got me twice and all they were doing was just spamming the weapon skill when I got close, or was attacking one of them.

[Turkwise]

Originally posted by orthostatic:

Originally posted by Convicted Japist:

Are there actually people here trying to say the moonveil isnt OP? What a bunch of clowns lmao, im assuming they just want want their crutch kicked out from under them.

No, I just hate nerf-whiners because single player games that cater to TwitterTwats inevitably turn into garbage. Go whine in a MMO somewhere about how you died to something, but leave single player games alone ffs.

At least this OP had the presence of mind to denote "damage to players" in their nerf cry, but it's still a nerf cry.

Bruh, it deserves to be nerfed and it will be. Its the most busted weapon in pvp that isnt just straight up bugged and it absolutely trivializes pve too. It literally has a weapon art that is completely better than any other weapon art or spell in the game. Not even by a little bit either, it completely ♥♥♥♥♥ on literally everything else in the game in terms of speed, damage and staggering. You dont even need to bother using a spell other than Pebble because the Moonveil's weapon art will just be completely better than all of them. If that wasnt enough, it even does more bleed buildup than the regular Uchigatana.

[ุReshy]

Originally posted by Omastar:

Originally posted by Omastar:

Moonveil reminds me of Chikage from bloodborne, only really having 1-2 moves, but does insane damage, it's not too big of a problem with practice, but can be frustrating to deal with when not used to fighting it.

Originally posted by Dargsy:

I dunno. Every moonveil weeb I went up against I slapped.

in a 1v1 scenario with a bit of practice it's pretty easy to dodge, you just have to be careful, and when people spam it it becomes very preditcable.

The problem I have with it is when you're against a gank, if you try to commit to anything you get 50-80% your HP taken.

I recently took out a 3v1 all using moonveil, it's not impossible - it's just incredibly difficult, I had to play incredibly passively, I was using the pike + brass shield and I carefully and slowly took them out, they nearly got me twice and all they were doing was just spamming the weapon skill when I got close, or was attacking one of them.

Yep, the trio of moon-veil chaining each other without concern of hitting each other.

[Omastar]

Originally posted by ุReshy:

Originally posted by Omastar:

in a 1v1 scenario with a bit of practice it's pretty easy to dodge, you just have to be careful, and when people spam it it becomes very preditcable.

The problem I have with it is when you're against a gank, if you try to commit to anything you get 50-80% your HP taken.

I recently took out a 3v1 all using moonveil, it's not impossible - it's just incredibly difficult, I had to play incredibly passively, I was using the pike + brass shield and I carefully and slowly took them out, they nearly got me twice and all they were doing was just spamming the weapon skill when I got close, or was attacking one of them.

Yep, the trio of moon-veil chaining each other without concern of hitting each other.

It's very tedious to fight.

[Turkwise]

People really dont understand the issue here?

"You can just dodge it hurrr"
Yeah, you can dodge anything in this game dumbass. The problem here is that spells and weapon arts that do damage comparable to the Moonveils L2R2 also take over twice as long to cast, while also having a MUCH slower projectile and often times costing more FP. Even after all that, they still do less damage than the moonveil does LMAO
It out speeds basically every other projectile in the game while also doing more damage, having long range and having no reactable audio cues. Thats all for the cost of 20 FP, 15 if you use a talisman. AND it does more bleed than a regular katana, what the ♥♥♥♥ was From thinking here

tldr The issue isnt that you cant outplay it, the issue is that its quite literally COMPLETELY better than basically every single other weapon or spell in the game. Hell, even if the weapon art did half the damage it would still be one of the best weapons in the game just because of how fast it is.

[ุReshy]

Originally posted by Convicted Japist:

People really dont understand the issue here?

"You can just dodge it hurrr"
Yeah, you can dodge anything in this game dumbass. The problem here is that spells and weapon arts that do damage comparable to the Moonveils L2R2 also take over twice as long to cast, while also having a MUCH slower projectile and often times costing more FP. Even after all that, they still do less damage than the moonveil does LMAO
It out speeds basically every other projectile in the game while also doing more damage, having long range and having no reactable audio cues. Thats all for the cost of 20 FP, 15 if you use a talisman. AND it does more bleed than a regular katana, what the ♥♥♥♥ was From thinking here

tldr The issue isnt that you cant outplay it, the issue is that its quite literally COMPLETELY better than basically every single other weapon or spell in the game. Hell, even if the weapon art did half the damage it would still be one of the best weapons in the game just because of how fast it is.

Only other comparable one is the Waves of Gold which hits in a long range in a 120 degree cone, and having multiple people use it is cancerous.

[AILAD]

I think katanas are OP in general. They're faster than greatswords and do more damage and apply bleed...

[ุReshy]

Originally posted by RevelationSpace:

I think katanas are OP in general. They're faster than greatswords and do more damage and apply bleed...

Yep... They need some sort of downside to them.