Stop trolling about how this game is masterpiece

[twitch|spider0666]

This game isnt masterpiece.

It isnt the best game like someone of us saying.

This game have large amount of unadressed problems.

Speaking about PC clone

1.)camera
Camera is clunky. Very offten slow and jamming (most evident even u have dialog menus).
Camera isnt 360°. So for example you are sneaking on bottom. Mob is on top and you cant see him. You can see him from different angle and if you move to see him than u became easily seen and hitable.

Lets demonstrate clunky camera on example here:
1) You cant see any further to top: https://ibb.co/3Bm7S09
2) If you want see top you have to move far away: https://ibb.co/DfFD5Cf


Another story is how camera behave in fight (so here is borrowed description from community member daz) :

"The way the camera functions, especially while strafing, is unforgivable. For KB+M, the way the lock on will jump around if you even nudge the mouse is infuriating and has caused far more deaths than it ever should. Having an option to allow attacking in the direction of the camera instead of the direction the character is facing would bump the score a couple points. Fix the camera and lock on and it would jump the score by several points.
"


2.)mobs hitting (meelee and spells) throw walls

3.)game isnt smooth even on very expensive computer

4.) bad controls and UI. It is evident that is designed for console controler.

5.)player mobility offten feels like being handicaped hero. But mobs movement outperfm player badly. This probably relates to bad camera and controls.

6.) bad game balance

7.) poor ingame help

8.) unfixed exploits

9.) linear design dungeons
And most stuff can be skipped. Its ridiculous. Just run horse, collect items.... Its Meh

10.) crazy bad targeting system (speaking about spells)
For example u on top. Mob on bottom. you should easily nuke him but this mess just direct your fireball to wall. Only solution is to fire from different distance, but spells also have effective range.

11.) hard melee gameplay
This relate to point 6. So every dude just go for nuking easy button with spell that dont have much issues with targetting.


I could be adding more and more problems as I continue playing.

But after all, game have also shinies parts. Music is very good. Graphics is nice.

So please dont tell me this is 10/10. It simply isnt. At current state its about 7/10 if am lover or RPG and genre and dont want to hurt ER much. So far for me its unfinished product.
Sorry.

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So I will be adding more points that will prove that this game is average. Not masterpiece at all.

12.) Sea - water factor
In game is no info what happen if you go into the water. So you have to find out.
So you walking on beach and try go to water. 1 meter in water ok you can move further. 2 meters you instantly die.


13.) corrupt save data factor
It is sad that in AAA game you can lost hundreds of hours progress because incopetence of developer.
There exist various ways how your save data may be corrupted.

For more info about 13) seek here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/tf39p3/hacked_and_now_infinitely_falling/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/tezkcc/me_and_my_friend_got_hacked_and_now_we_fall/



This is masterpiece? lmao

[twitch|spider0666]

Noeat a écrit :

marios a écrit :

Well now I know that this specific gengre have lot of mentaly retarded fans. Its quite strange because statisticaly it should be less than 1% ...

Every of those poor fun boys that come here. Insult me and add git gud joke.

So its clear that they accept bugs, glitches and other unfinished development work like it is intended feature.

I have to say than that is irelevant what you type. This retarded crowd will accept ♥♥♥♥♥ and keep eating it telling you that its best fruits out of world.


I get ity git gut gang, now go home pls. And let poor developer fix its game.

when you dont like it, it dont means it is bad, it just means you dont like it

No i am no masochist, I want good PC port not lazy cash grab.
Who want play with clunky controls, glitches.... retard person perhaps

[Lunacy]

The critique is fair but honestly it's all so incredibly minor that it only brings the game from a 9.9 to a 9.8.
But all of your personal points are just troll bait post quality.

[Noeat]

marios a écrit :

Noeat a écrit :

when you dont like it, it dont means it is bad, it just means you dont like it

No i am no masochist, I want good PC port not lazy cash grab.
Who want play with clunky controls, glitches.... retard person perhaps

controls is fine
enemy balance is fine
player mobility is fine.. and depends on load - on high u get fat rolls, medium is with normal rolls and mobility, light is faster with longer i-frames
ingame help in souls games? :DDD
magic targeting - ye, its intentional, magic is OP AF and safe
hard melee? yes, its intended and always was in souls games

exploits, glitches and so are kinda part of souls games - check speedrunning and so.
no 360 camera? yes, its not there

you dont like it? ok.. choose another game what you will like more. this is like when you bought vanilla ice cream and you want strawberry one.

i guess vanilla isnt perfect, but you dont wanna buy it when you want strawberry one.

you just cant call it bad only because you dont like it.. its the same like vanilla ice cream isnt bad just because you dont like it.

[nomorevideos]

Krazy Wallet a écrit :

Once the performance is fixed, this one will go down in the books as one of the best for me. Just my personal opinion

Personal preference =/= objectively great

I like ER too, performance issues aside, but especially the balancing feels off right now. In some late-game areas the enemies are extremely aggressive and have both high damage and health. It feels the balance between "normal" enemies and elites feels off. To add to that fact a lot of bosses are copy-pasted, and some people still try to ignore that fact. DS2 had like 40 something bosses. Many sucked, but most were unique. Base game I can think of like 3 reused bosses or something, Dragon Rider/Dragon Riders, "Last Giant"/Giant King and.. there probably is a third or even fourth. But point being, there aren't many at all. The DLC has a similar thing where once you fight 1 big cat, then you fight 2 big cats. In Shulva you fight a copy of Nashandra, who summons another boss as minion.
Meanwhile in ER? The same fat lizard is copy-pasted like 4 times. There's the pincer horse which you can find in several places and has boss HP bars in each encounter. 8+ Asylum Demons that act as tree guardians, rotten guardians who guard I think 2 trees and another one if found in the capital. Then you have the flying deer which is used twice, the meteor/gravity bugs which are used as I think bosses twice and found several times in the underground, Margit is reused too from what I know, fat guy is reused, Loretta is reused.

To top it off, a lot of bosses are either jokes or they're way overtuned like Malenia. Malenia has no poise and no health, but she hits like a truck and on top of it heals too. Then you have broken status effects like bleed, bleed feels way too powerful right now. You can use the Flamberge or some katana and get very good damage on top of bleeding the boss potentially every 7-8 hits.

Then you have the huge downgrade for online (invading, but covenants as a whole) and I can't see how some "journalists" and e-celebs could give it a 9 even. I mean I do know, A. they need to keep good relations with the publisher and the industry as a whole, but more importantly B. they know if they didn't give it a fantastic score they'd have people riot in the comments and social media. If you give an AAA game an 8/10, a very good score mind you, people will take it as personal attack and pretend like an 8 is the worst possible score you could give it. Some journo has even said in the past that the "average AAA game" is "usually" a 7 anyway. So instead of a 5 being average or mediocre it's suddenly a 7, which a 7/10 is usually a good score. I have no citation for that, it might be wrong. Even if it is wrong and no journo ever said that, it's what everyone thinks anyway.

It's just one huge crapshow, how modern journos work.

[nomorevideos]

Lunacy a écrit :

The critique is fair but honestly it's all so incredibly minor that it only brings the game from a 9.9 to a 9.8.
But all of your personal points are just troll bait post quality.

9.799* for the fact half of all bosses are recycled, some even from older games.

[Noeat]

nomorevideos a écrit :

Even if it is wrong and no journo ever said that, it's what everyone thinks anyway.

It's just one huge crapshow, how modern journos work.

then.. you just made it up and then use it to trashtalk this game and pretend its a fact
ok
but.. why? O_o ..you can criticize this game even without needing dream up some nonsense to support your criticism. you just make your criticism less valid, when you did this.

[IneedsBeer]

The camera is a massive gripe for me, not sure why it's so focused and close to a large boss, but I can practically see black blades nutsack, it's beyond silly.

[BaLuX]

Kite a écrit :

Imagine the only thing you can find in a gigantic open world game are some bugs and glitches! That truly shows that this game is a modern masterpiece.

You guys can never talk about the deep lore, the great compelling story, the outstanding gameplay, the groundbreaking boss design, the stunning graphics etc. All you can say is bugs and glitches. Oh jeez, you guys are just something else.

Nice post.

People like OP are just desperately trying to pinpoint flaws for whatever reason. Not to mention that most of OP's points are moot.

[nomorevideos]

Noeat a écrit :

nomorevideos a écrit :

Even if it is wrong and no journo ever said that, it's what everyone thinks anyway.

It's just one huge crapshow, how modern journos work.

then.. you just made it up and then use it to trashtalk this game and pretend its a fact
ok
but.. why? O_o ..you can criticize this game even without needing dream up some nonsense to support your criticism. you just make your criticism less valid, when you did this.

No I didn't, I said I recall a guy talking about it, quoting a journalist. I believe that journo was Alanah Pearce, but I could be entirely wrong on him saying it was her and for all I know he could've made the quote up as well.

That doesn't matter, because all that changes is that an official member of the journalist circle didn't acknowledge it. It's the reality. Feel free to scour through old articles and look at their reviews and scores and compare them to nowadays. The average has risen to 7+ over the past 15 years.

Here's the video btw: https://youtu.be/Bgg7_0rBUOA?t=277

There, she said it. "Games are really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ good.", when most games these days, and by these days I mean the past 5-7 years, are not even finished by the time they launch. CoD is a perfect example of still getting "really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ good" scores when for the past 2 years now each CoD has had massive issues and launched in a poor state. CW and Vanguard still got those 7 scores. Keep in mind, Pearce said that a 7 = "really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ good". So good in fact that it had issues for months, to this day, hundreds of bugs who weren't fixed, like broken hitreg, broken AA/TA, broken tracer rounds so someone may pay $15+ for a bundle for parts of the bundle not to work correctly and so on. So even though she's admitted to it here, she's still making it seem like it's the correct thing to do, when it really isn't. IGN looking at it is actually one of the more sane sites too, giving games like DL2 "only a 7", which keep in mind Alanah says is still a very good score essentially. Most major websites give these AAA games an extra point or two, just for being AAA. The reality is if a game has major bugs and an uninspired campaign in case of CoD, it shouldn't even get a 7. 2042 got majority mixed reviews from critics, when in reality it should've been mostly negative.

Also thanks for the gaslighting. You're ignoring the rest of my post to latch on to the single thing you could possible latch on to, to "discredit me" by posting things like "you're just trashing the game". That's gaslighting 101, making me and others believe I was only talking nonsense and lies or misinformation when in reality only a single bit of my post, which I even pointed out in it, was potentially wrong and no such event had occurred.

Smiley/etc users and gaslighting go hand in hand and unless you have something decent to say about the points made (copy-pasted bosses galore and modern "journalism"), I am going to ignore you.

[Noeat]

nomorevideos a écrit :

I am going to ignore you.

feel free to ignore me.

i just point at fact that trying trashtalk game based on dream up nonsense just make your criticism less valid.
anyway "argument from authority" is pretty lame and common argumentation foul

[Dr. Octagon]

Elden Ring is definitely a masterpiece. It's a 10/10. It's the best game I've played in several years. It's going to win GOTY in most outlets and then all of you salty ER haters can join hands with the salty BOTW haters.

Opinions are fun.

[trungking]

still masterpiece :))

[MikeOxBig]

Oreo Boy a écrit :

ok boomer

oof degen gen Zs. Worthless kids and teens

[Ronin Gamer]

You do realize what one person's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ opinion is isn't what your opinion has to be right? Or are we doing the stupid childish thing that if a reviewer gives the game you wanted so desperately a lower score we ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ rag on that one review acting like their opinion is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gospel and we have to rip and tear it apart or some stupid ♥♥♥♥?

Grow the ♥♥♥♥ up. Someone else can call this game a masterpiece if they want to. Get over it.

[Krab Koldun]

Also torrent movement is uncontrollable and bad sometimes, but taking all of this into consideration, game is still masterpiece.