better summon - knight engvall or headless luthell

[Dreadnaught]

picking one for my early-mid game summon before i pick up a better one

[noobie123]

you looking for a reliable tanky summon char? knight engvall.

luthell is good, but she teles around and can cause the boss to aggro to you more often than not.

[Sabaithal]

Engvall without question. Solely because he tanks damage like no other summon aside from maybe mimics tear and Oleg.

Better question would be between Oleg or Engvall, because I honestly don't know that one.

[Dreadnaught]

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Engvall without question. Solely because he tanks damage like no other summon aside from maybe mimics tear and Oleg.

Better question would be between Oleg or Engvall, because I honestly don't know that one.

Im not super familiar with oleg is that the archer, im on my third playthrough and im trying to mix it up a bit as I used mimic and tiche heavily my first two playthroughs, trying to not touch them until very late game or at all

[Sabaithal]

Originally posted by Dreadnaught:

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Engvall without question. Solely because he tanks damage like no other summon aside from maybe mimics tear and Oleg.

Better question would be between Oleg or Engvall, because I honestly don't know that one.

Im not super familiar with oleg is that the archer, im on my third playthrough and im trying to mix it up a bit as I used mimic and tiche heavily my first two playthroughs, trying to not touch them until very late game or at all

Oleg and Engvall are both banished knights. Both are quite tanky, take the same amount of FP to summon, and look very similar.

The main difference is Oleg has twin greatswords, where as Engvall has a big halberd. I'm pretty sure Oleg does more overall DPS, but there has to be some advantage to using Engvall, or he wouldn't cost the same amount of FP...

[Dreadnaught]

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Originally posted by Dreadnaught:

Im not super familiar with oleg is that the archer, im on my third playthrough and im trying to mix it up a bit as I used mimic and tiche heavily my first two playthroughs, trying to not touch them until very late game or at all

Oleg and Engvall are both banished knights. Both are quite tanky, take the same amount of FP to summon, and look very similar.

The main difference is Oleg has twin greatswords, where as Engvall has a big halberd. I'm pretty sure Oleg does more overall DPS, but there has to be some advantage to using Engvall, or he wouldn't cost the same amount of FP...

ah ok, Engvall is extremely early game, maybe its the fact on how early you can get him gives him his worth rather than the more DPS on a summon later in the game(however I dont actually know where oleg is so maybe not)

[zemzero]

I just use Oleg. He's the man, tanks almost anything and does decent dps. I haven't leveled or used Engvall yet.

[Chad "The King" ThunderCuck]

mimic is stil the best, followed by the alburnoric girl

[Sabaithal]

Originally posted by Dreadnaught:

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Oleg and Engvall are both banished knights. Both are quite tanky, take the same amount of FP to summon, and look very similar.

The main difference is Oleg has twin greatswords, where as Engvall has a big halberd. I'm pretty sure Oleg does more overall DPS, but there has to be some advantage to using Engvall, or he wouldn't cost the same amount of FP...

ah ok, Engvall is extremely early game, maybe its the fact on how early you can get him gives him his worth rather than the more DPS on a summon later in the game(however I dont actually know where oleg is so maybe not)

Oleg is in the starting grave area that requires 2 stone swords to unlock. However you have to kill a rather tough boss to get him so...

[Kyutaru]

Headless Luthel. Easily the best.

[Sabaithal]

Originally posted by < blank >:

headdless my boy

phasing gives tons of survivability

Depends on the boss. Saw headless get his/her ♥♥♥♥ kicked in by a misbegotten warrior, the thing was too aggressive for them to bear it.

[Dreadnaught]

Originally posted by Chad "The King" ThunderCuck:

mimic is stil the best, followed by the alburnoric girl

not what I asked

[Chad "The King" ThunderCuck]

Originally posted by Dreadnaught:

Originally posted by Chad "The King" ThunderCuck:

mimic is stil the best, followed by the alburnoric girl

not what I asked

all other summons are equal levels of complete garbage. that good enough for you?

[Nerevar]

people sleep on oleg. he is the best spirit for most of the game especially early on. use his twin to defeat the boss that guards him early. oleg is better than luthel and better than his twin aswell due to beeing super aggresive.

that add that the commander boss at castle sol summons with the twin greatswords. that is him. and he is just as cancer as that add was. now imagine haveing that thing at gamestart. hell solo most bosses for you.

luthel and kristoff are more tanky but are also way less aggresive and thus often lose emity on enemies. for example when luthel phases in and out the boss will go after you again.

oleg is extremely close to them in terms of tankyness. he only gets outclassed on lategame bosses. given how early you can access him he is no doubt the best spirit ash there.

on my 2nd playtrough new character i used spirit ashes alot as i ignored them entirely my first run to not make the game too easy for me. i can tell you right now of the beat oleg makes the ENTIRE early game a joke. its stupid easy to beat with him. just be careful on super fast bosses like red DOG.

[Dreadnaught]

Originally posted by Chad "The King" ThunderCuck:

Originally posted by Dreadnaught:

not what I asked

all other summons are equal levels of complete garbage. that good enough for you?

again, not what I asked, you have a "cant even beat a boss unless you summon two people and let them do all the work" vibe ,,, why even comment on here if you have 0 input on the question

[Dreadnaught]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

people sleep on oleg. he is the best spirit for most of the game especially early on. use his twin to defeat the boss that guards him early. oleg is better than luthel and better than his twin aswell due to beeing super aggresive.

that add that the commander boss at castle sol summons with the twin greatswords. that is him. and he is just as cancer as that add was. now imagine haveing that thing at gamestart. hell solo most bosses for you.

luthel and kristoff are more tanky but are also way less aggresive and thus often lose emity on enemies. for example when luthel phases in and out the boss will go after you again.

oleg is extremely close to them in terms of tankyness. he only gets outclassed on lategame bosses. given how early you can access him he is no doubt the best spirit ash there.

on my 2nd playtrough new character i used spirit ashes alot as i ignored them entirely my first run to not make the game too easy for me. i can tell you right now of the beat oleg makes the ENTIRE early game a joke. its stupid easy to beat with him. just be careful on super fast bosses like red DOG.

Thanks, i already upgraded engvall to +3 but i might have to try out Oleg then, sounds like a blast