Let's remember that Sonic Robo Blast 2 exists

[Ikagura]

and is still one of the best (if not the best) Sonic fangame out there.

I even dare saying that this is the literal best 3D Sonic game in existence.

[Ikagura]

SlimyYetSatisfying a écrit :

The best 3D Sonic fan game is hidden in the background and only shows brief glimpses of itself maybe once a year, and it's called Project Hero. SRB2, Utopia, and GT all wish it were this good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-7-FhmcfP4

"Sonic Robo Blast 2 wish it was this good"

Oh right, a tech demo in Green Hill is better than an actually finished game with a lot of content and unique zones?

[Chicken Jockey]

Ikagura a écrit :

Oh right, a tech demo in Green Hill is better than an actually finished game with a lot of content and unique zones?

To be fair, this does look like it's more fun to control, and it animates really well. Not a fan of the Egg Pawns or overall art direction for the environment, though.

[Ikagura]

The Breakfast Machine a écrit :

Ikagura a écrit :

Oh right, a tech demo in Green Hill is better than an actually finished game with a lot of content and unique zones?

To be fair, this does look like it's more fun to control, and it animates really well. Not a fan of the Egg Pawns or overall art direction for the environment, though.

Looks like any momentum-based tech demo I've seen.

I want to see more than just momentum, Robo Blast 2 also used momentum and speed.

And I agree that the art direction of Robo Blast 2 is better.

[Dark Redshift]

Sixtyfivekills a écrit :

It's called Project 06, why the hell would they make it be something it isn't?

Also funny how that "polished turd" is miles better than every Colors era game.

Damn straight. Colors sucks and Ultimate even moreso. Hell, I guarantee even Frontiers will be better than Colors Ultimate when it comes out, regardless of what state it releases in. I'm currently concerned with waiting for the next P-06 update because that game I know for a fact won't disappoint, demo or not.

[Bl!nkix]

Dark Redshift a écrit :

Sixtyfivekills a écrit :

It's called Project 06, why the hell would they make it be something it isn't?

Also funny how that "polished turd" is miles better than every Colors era game.

Damn straight. Colors sucks and Ultimate even moreso. Hell, I guarantee even Frontiers will be better than Colors Ultimate when it comes out, regardless of what state it releases in. I'm currently concerned with waiting for the next P-06 update because that game I know for a fact won't disappoint, demo or not.

iirc the next p-06 update will be episode silver

[Dark Redshift]

Bl!nkix a écrit :

Dark Redshift a écrit :

Damn straight. Colors sucks and Ultimate even moreso. Hell, I guarantee even Frontiers will be better than Colors Ultimate when it comes out, regardless of what state it releases in. I'm currently concerned with waiting for the next P-06 update because that game I know for a fact won't disappoint, demo or not.

iirc the next p-06 update will be episode silver

Indeed. I'd love to see the improvements to Silver's stages after they perfected his gameplay in demo 3.5 and the Shadow update. Especially looking forward to playing as Blaze in 3D again.

[Sixtyfivekills]

Dark Redshift a écrit :

Bl!nkix a écrit :

iirc the next p-06 update will be episode silver

Indeed. I'd love to see the improvements to Silver's stages after they perfected his gameplay in demo 3.5 and the Shadow update. Especially looking forward to playing as Blaze in 3D again.

Amy as well, I wanna see how he'll improve her and if he'll keep that weird ability where she can go invisible.

[Toastman]

The Breakfast Machine a écrit :

Duckilous a écrit :

Maybe not for the story but the gameplay and overall experience should be and is miles better.

So it's like they're polishing a turd.

What if they dedicated this much time and effort to something new and original instead of trying to freelance salvage a mistake?

I guess it's the same phenomena that causes people to fix up old cars and make them look brand new. (In this case something akin to a BMW Isetta.) People are pulled by strange, non-sensical whims all the time. Passion and drive can hard to obtain for some people, leading them to take odd jobs like this that strike their niche fancy.

[Dark Redshift]

Sixtyfivekills a écrit :

Dark Redshift a écrit :

Indeed. I'd love to see the improvements to Silver's stages after they perfected his gameplay in demo 3.5 and the Shadow update. Especially looking forward to playing as Blaze in 3D again.

Amy as well, I wanna see how he'll improve her and if he'll keep that weird ability where she can go invisible.

When I play my original 360 copy of 2006 next time as opposed to P-06 and my emulated version on Xenia (for Japanese voices and PC play), I'll need to find out that glitch because in all my years of Sonic 06, 90% of the glitches were surprisingly rare, and Amy going invisible I never saw at all.

[Sixtyfivekills]

Dark Redshift a écrit :

Sixtyfivekills a écrit :

Amy as well, I wanna see how he'll improve her and if he'll keep that weird ability where she can go invisible.

When I play my original 360 copy of 2006 next time as opposed to P-06 and my emulated version on Xenia (for Japanese voices and PC play), I'll need to find out that glitch because in all my years of Sonic 06, 90% of the glitches were surprisingly rare, and Amy going invisible I never saw at all.

That's not a glitch actually, its her ability.

EDIT: Given how often she jumps at people from behind I'd say it makes too much sense.

[Dark Redshift]

Sixtyfivekills a écrit :

Dark Redshift a écrit :

When I play my original 360 copy of 2006 next time as opposed to P-06 and my emulated version on Xenia (for Japanese voices and PC play), I'll need to find out that glitch because in all my years of Sonic 06, 90% of the glitches were surprisingly rare, and Amy going invisible I never saw at all.

That's not a glitch actually, its her ability.

EDIT: Given how often she jumps at people from behind I'd say it makes too much sense.

I never knew she could genuinely do that. I'll need to look up how it's done as it sounds cool, like Espio's similar ability in Heroes but with a hammer instead of shurikans.

[SlimyYetSatisfying]

Ikagura a écrit :

SlimyYetSatisfying a écrit :

The best 3D Sonic fan game is hidden in the background and only shows brief glimpses of itself maybe once a year, and it's called Project Hero. SRB2, Utopia, and GT all wish it were this good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-7-FhmcfP4

"Sonic Robo Blast 2 wish it was this good"

Oh right, a tech demo in Green Hill is better than an actually finished game with a lot of content and unique zones?

SRB2 will never be anything more than an outdated modified doom engine fan project. It's level designs are sub par and it's incapable of making even the simplest of loops or gameplay that doesn't feel like you're running on ice.

[GitCat]

Honestly SRB2 buries any 3d sonic game that came in the last 15 years 6 km underground

[Timur2345]

Honestly i would rather choose remaking/remastering a bad game instead of remaking/remastering a good game.

Also while on topic, i personally prefer the ds version instead of Wii/Ultimate, it kinda baffles me that Ultimate doesn't cover the DS content.
I liked both version of Generations, but ended up liking PC more, thanks to mods.
Also is it wrong to like the 3ds version of Sonic Colors, instead of Wii U/PC version?

[Ikagura]

Toastman a écrit :

The Breakfast Machine a écrit :

So it's like they're polishing a turd.

What if they dedicated this much time and effort to something new and original instead of trying to freelance salvage a mistake?

I guess it's the same phenomena that causes people to fix up old cars and make them look brand new. (In this case something akin to a BMW Isetta.) People are pulled by strange, non-sensical whims all the time. Passion and drive can hard to obtain for some people, leading them to take odd jobs like this that strike their niche fancy.

Isn't this insanity in a way? Doing the same thing expecting a different result?

Sixtyfivekills a écrit :

Amy as well, I wanna see how he'll improve her and if he'll keep that weird ability where she can go invisible.

Why the heck did they give her this ability to begin with? She has a hammer, isn't it enough?
Espio already filled this role with his stealth mode.

SlimyYetSatisfying a écrit :

SRB2 will never be anything more than an outdated modified doom engine fan project. It's level designs are sub par and it's incapable of making even the simplest of loops or gameplay that doesn't feel like you're running on ice.

What? Doom is never outdated, Doom is Eternal. The Doom Legacy engine isn't GZDoom but it could still do wonders.

The level design is great and a Sonic game doesn't need loops to be actually great. In Modern Sonic games loops are mostly for spectacle than actual obstacles like in the Classics anyway.

Also there's a mode to automatically make you less slippery but you can also easily compensate the momentum with a bit of training anyway.

CyberViper a écrit :

Honestly SRB2 buries any 3d sonic game that came in the last 15 years 6 km underground

True! Maybe except Colors and Generations.

mottim a écrit :

Honestly i would rather choose remaking/remastering a bad game instead of remaking/remastering a good game.

Why? People want to redo actual good games, that's why we got Sonic CD here on Steam with wide screen and Sonic Colors on the Playstation, Xbox and Switch.

mottim a écrit :

Also while on topic, i personally prefer the ds version instead of Wii/Ultimate, it kinda baffles me that Ultimate doesn't cover the DS content.

This is basically Rush 3.