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Which 3D sonic games are at least as good as SRB2
I have never considered the Sonic Adventures titles to be particular good or interesting. 2 was okay, 1 was middling.

Despite some growing pains, and some mediocre levels in the full campaign release, I found that SRB2 far outshined both of the adventure titles, and colors, which is the only other proper Sonic 3d title I have played (not counting 3d blast).

Frontiers looks pretty good, and I'd be interested to hear if you guys think it is the best of Sega's 3D offerings so far and how you would rank it compared to others.

And the big question, is it better than Adventures I or II and is it better than SRB2?
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Fili 29 aug. 2023 la 14:54 
it's a 7/10 imo. While it's the best Sonic game in the last 10 years (Not counting Mania), it has some shortcomings which might put people off, especially if they are looking for more momentum based gameplay.

Game has been improving a lot with updates, but jumping controls still feel off and the physics are also weird in the sense that sometimes there's some mometum and other times you are glued to the ground. Cyberspace stages, aka, action stages still feel off even with improvements they added.

Story is better than it has ever been since SA2 and it's worth experiencing, but you also have to deal with the "open World" side of the game which is where you will spend most your time. There's plenty of interesting ways to interact with the islands but a lot of the missions are just pointless busy work that don't offer much other than expanding your map and attack or defense buffs.

And there's also combat in a Sonic game. Actual combat. It's servicable but don't expect Devil May Cry or Nier Automata.

Buy the game and play it for 2 hours. You will be introduced to cyperspace stages right from the get go and after that you get to play the "open world" mode. You can refund it if you don't like it, just don't expect anything remotely close to SRB2. If you want SRB2, Spark the Jester 2 and 3 are better options.
Editat ultima dată de Fili; 31 aug. 2023 la 13:37
Mez Koo 29 aug. 2023 la 22:16 
Wtf is a SRB2?

If you even remotely enjoyed Colors then definitely give Generations a try, it goes on sale cheap, has great levels (unless you hate 2.5D stuff), lots of mini missions/games and has a lot of modding support including being able to play all the "normal" Sonic (day) stages from Unleashed.

Speaking of Unleashed I'd suggest that too but its not sold on pc and you'd need to dip into emulation stuff for that and not everyone is into that but if you are then I'd suggest Xenia Canary *using Vulkan rendering* as the xbox 360 platform for solid 60 fps on PC but you'd need your own copy of Sonic Unleashed. I don't know if they've fixed the higher resolution bugs yet if you want more than original resolution but its better than the PS3 version's performance unless you've got a super computer to brute force it.
Editat ultima dată de Mez Koo; 29 aug. 2023 la 22:20
Postat inițial de Mez Koo:
Wtf is a SRB2?
Sonic Robo Blast 2, which is considered one of the best fanmade 3D Sonic games.
Mez Koo 29 aug. 2023 la 23:08 
Postat inițial de Duckilous:
Postat inițial de Mez Koo:
Wtf is a SRB2?
Sonic Robo Blast 2, which is considered one of the best fanmade 3D Sonic games.
I've never heard of it but a quick youtube search shows its more of a classic sprite based sonic game represented 3D world still looks good though. But it still doesn't explain exactly what OP is looking for in a "3D Sonic game." If they're looking for that sprite based fun feeling then probably none of the 3D Sonic games will deliver that and the best I can I suggest is probably Generations but again that depends on what the OP wants. If they want full 3d all the time then its going to be tough since Generations, Lost World and Forces have a lot of 2.5D and they didn't say if they liked Colors although I guess maybe they were fine with it enough to still call it a proper 3d Sonic game.

For the simple run forward through a 3D stage with speed and momentum there is the fan game "Sonic World DX" that is a little more "simple" like SRB2 but its not sprite based and personally, I enjoyed the fan game Sonic Omens as a "next gen" sort of the same thing.
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Sonic Robo Blast 2, which is considered one of the best fanmade 3D Sonic games.
I've never heard of it but a quick youtube search shows its more of a classic sprite based sonic game represented 3D world still looks good though. But it still doesn't explain exactly what OP is looking for in a "3D Sonic game." If they're looking for that sprite based fun feeling then probably none of the 3D Sonic games will deliver that and the best I can I suggest is probably Generations but again that depends on what the OP wants. If they want full 3d all the time then its going to be tough since Generations, Lost World and Forces have a lot of 2.5D and they didn't say if they liked Colors although I guess maybe they were fine with it enough to still call it a proper 3d Sonic game.

For the simple run forward through a 3D stage with speed and momentum there is the fan game "Sonic World DX" that is a little more "simple" like SRB2 but its not sprite based and personally, I enjoyed the fan game Sonic Omens as a "next gen" sort of the same thing.
I don't think OP was asking for a 3D game with 2D sprites like Doom was, whose engine is what SRB2 runs on. Furthermore, SRB2 can be modded with a 3D models addon.

They most likely want a gameplay style similar to classic Sonic games but in a 3D environment even though OP dislikes the Adventure duology despite having the closest gameplay style.
Mez Koo 30 aug. 2023 la 22:21 
Another free fan-made option to try is Project 06 Silver release.
it depends the person

For me Sonic adventure 1, Sonic frontiers and even Sonic Unleashed (Wii ver. which is not even an open world, but only the werehog) are better than SRB2
Mez Koo 31 aug. 2023 la 13:45 
Postat inițial de Edward H.B:
For me Sonic adventure 1, Sonic frontiers and even Sonic Unwiished are better than SRB2
FTFY
Editat ultima dată de Mez Koo; 1 sept. 2023 la 6:37
Ikagura 1 sept. 2023 la 2:42 
Sonic Robo Blast 2 is the best 3D Sonic game ever made.


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Postat inițial de Edward H.B:
For me Sonic adventure 1, Sonic frontiers and even Sonic Wiileashed are better than SRB2
FTFY
What does that mean?
Mez Koo 1 sept. 2023 la 2:43 
Postat inițial de Ikagura:
Sonic Robo Blast 2 is the best 3D Sonic game ever made.


Postat inițial de Mez Koo:
FTFY
What does that mean?
fixed that for you, they meant the wii version of unleashed so I fixed the name of the game in the quote as a joke
Editat ultima dată de Mez Koo; 1 sept. 2023 la 2:45
Ikagura 1 sept. 2023 la 4:12 
Postat inițial de Mez Koo:
Postat inițial de Ikagura:
Sonic Robo Blast 2 is the best 3D Sonic game ever made.



What does that mean?
fixed that for you, they meant the wii version of unleashed so I fixed the name of the game in the quote as a joke
Isn't it called "Unwiished" by fans? I just says Unleashed SD since the PS2 version exists as well.


But I still say that Robo Blast 2 is still supperior to those 3 games.
Editat ultima dată de Ikagura; 1 sept. 2023 la 4:12
Mez Koo 1 sept. 2023 la 6:36 
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Postat inițial de Mez Koo:
fixed that for you, they meant the wii version of unleashed so I fixed the name of the game in the quote as a joke
Isn't it called "Unwiished" by fans? I just says Unleashed SD since the PS2 version exists as well.
Unwiished does sound better.
Zenny 1 sept. 2023 la 17:42 
I played SRB2, really solid fan game, specially after the 2.2 update. If you want another good fan game I suggest Sonic P-06 (Silver Release), which has all the stages implemented, it is basically fully complete game for free. Also, Sonic Triple Trouble 16-Bit remake is one of the best 2D Classic Sonic fan games out there.

On the realm of official games, check:

Sonic Adventure 1 - The SADX port on Steam is garbo, but it is easily moddable with BetterSADX, which fixed all the major issues and gives the definitive SA1 experience, way closer to the original Dreamcast release.

Sonic Adventure 2 - Is also pretty good. The Steam port is serviceable;

Sonic Unleashed (the Wii version) - it is a streamlighted version of the Xbox/PS3 version, with better medal collecting, less filler, shorter night levels, and some cool unlockable extra challenges in the Gaia Gates. Also the soundtrack is a banger;

Sonic Generations - overall a good game, no filler, just the best of 20 years of Sonic.
Ikagura 2 sept. 2023 la 5:15 
Sonic P-06 is flawed, not because of the "fixes" (they're good) but because of fundamental flaws that Sonic 2006 had beyond glitches, the story and the loading times.
Postat inițial de Ikagura:
Sonic Robo Blast 2 is the best 3D Sonic game ever made.

I can't tell you you are wrong because u are not.
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