sonic is the worst character in the sonic franchise

[meow]

boring, bland, no personality, somehow even less interesting than sand and mechanically dull

tails and knuckles are both more fun to play as in every single game they appear as options

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by quiet riot:

sonic's only ability is run fast, literally one trick pony. Boring.
Can't even double jump or shoot.

Not sure what your limited range of sonic games is but he can double jump.

[NBOX21]

Originally posted by quiet riot:

Sonic isn't your friend. He never was. He's just a ploy to get you to spend money on mediocre games that has been surprisingly successful for three decades for reasons I do not understand.

Because the games used to be really good, that's why. That's what gave this franchise the level of success and recognition it got over the years.

[Duckilous]

Originally posted by quiet riot:

I can't believe people defend a blatant money-vacuuming capitalist mascot like he's their friend.

Sonic isn't your friend. He never was. He's just a ploy to get you to spend money on mediocre games that has been surprisingly successful for three decades for reasons I do not understand.

Same can be said for Mario.
Hell, Nintendo is even more ruthless when it comes to fan projects than Sega.

[devawing412]

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Originally posted by quiet riot:

sonic's only ability is run fast, literally one trick pony. Boring.
Can't even double jump or shoot.

Not sure what your limited range of sonic games is but he can double jump.

So can many other sonic characters as well. Heck many characters can do iconic spin dash which is not invented by Sonic but made by Tails instead.

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by Princess Luna:

Mario is more boring. Same boring pipes, same princess in distress, same stupid bowser. No variety

Sonic:
New game is new mecha robots.
Face the facts mario defender

Mario had largely more variety than just SMB.

Sonic barely had any good spinoffs.

Also Mario can show personality https://youtu.be/AsZzbmFYZ8E

Just because he talks less than Modern Sonic doesn't mean he's boring.

Originally posted by quiet riot:

Sonic isn't your friend. He never was. He's just a ploy to get you to spend money on mediocre games that has been surprisingly successful for three decades for reasons I do not understand.

The smartest person in the entire forum has talked.

Originally posted by Duckilous:

Hell, Nintendo is even more ruthless when it comes to fan projects than Sega.

Yet Nintendo are still making masterpieces and consoles.

Sega, without the fangames, barely exists.

[NBOX21]

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Also Mario can show personality

Sonic can too. In fact, Sonic's shown off his personality in most of the earlier games in the series with or without dialogue, 2D or 3D; mainly, tapping his foot impatiently if you leave him idle for a moment.

Forces in general has no personality whatsoever, not even any idle animations to give you an idea of what his character is like.

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by NBOX21:

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Also Mario can show personality

Sonic can too. In fact, Sonic's shown off his personality in most of the earlier games in the series with or without dialogue, 2D or 3D; mainly, tapping his foot impatiently if you leave him idle for a moment.

Forces in general has no personality whatsoever, not even any idle animations to give you an idea of what his character is like.

Mania Adventure was the best showcase, not like Sonic X.

[Ackranome]

Gotta love classic sonic. All that attitude.

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by Ackranome:

Gotta love classic sonic. All that attitude.

Classic > Modern and that applies to everything.

[Nebulouser]

Originally posted by quiet riot:

I can't believe people defend a blatant money-vacuuming capitalist mascot like he's their friend.

Sonic isn't your friend. He never was. He's just a ploy to get you to spend money on mediocre games that has been surprisingly successful for three decades for reasons I do not understand.

Bruh you don't know how game design works. Giving sonic a gun Dosent improve the gameplay loop.

Its like if portal 3 came out with an ability to phase through walls. How would that improve the gameplay loop of puzzle solving? How would you implement that into puzzles and the level design? Look I hate how sonic team does their stuff but power ups should be the least of this games worries if they can't even do the simple gameplay loop right of getting to the goal with fun controls or interesting platforming.

I'll also give you another analogy. What if Mario had a gun? How would that improve the gameplay loop? How could you impliment This new feature into these levels? What enemies would you have that could incorporate this mechanic to Improve the gameplay and excetera. But there is also a goal to keep it still like Mario and not loose its identity. Its out of character for Mario to have a gun or sonic to have a gun. So you have to think about demographics too.

[Seraphita]

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Classic > Modern and that applies to everything.

You sure smoked some good stuff. The term "nostalgia goggles" exists for you.

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Sega, without the fangames, barely exists.

Imagine saying something this silly unironically. So much ignorance in few words.

Originally posted by Ikagura:

The smartest person in the entire forum has talked.

Imagine kissing people's asses like this all day long. This is an entire circus... lol...

[Nebulouser]

Originally posted by Seraphita:

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Classic > Modern and that applies to everything.

You sure smoked some good stuff. The term "nostalgia goggles" exists for you.

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Sega, without the fangames, barely exists.

Imagine saying something this silly unironically. So much ignorance in few words.

Originally posted by Ikagura:

The smartest person in the entire forum has talked.

Imagine kissing people's asses like this all day long. This is an entire circus... lol...

Even though i dont like saying it. Sonic had a rough start at 3D. But thats only because of the Dreamcast Low sales to be honest. And i do agree with you that Sega can still exist without fan games it just increases the fans positivity about the franchise

And yeah. This is a circus. and everyone is laughing at eachother.

[Seraphita]

Let's remember Sega is NOT only about Sonic. As far as I see, Sonic adventures 1 and 2 are still regarded as very high rated games (And also was back at the time.) Rough start yes but still a nice attempt and introduction to better things nonetheless. Sega has many games.

[Nebulouser]

Originally posted by Seraphita:

Let's remember Sega is NOT only about Sonic. As far as I see, Sonic adventures 1 and 2 are still regarded as very high rated games (And also was back at the time.) Rough start yes but still a nice attempt and introduction to better things nonetheless. Sega has many games.

We really shouldnt be blaming sega that much. Half of the blame should be on Sonic Team. the only people who are only working on Sonic Games and their engines. But Sega does direct them to make really bad choices like Sonic Team also with their own choices. You cant really determine which ones are sonic teams or Sega's decisions.

[Seraphita]

Originally posted by __Lyssa__:

We really shouldnt be blaming sega that much. Half of the blame should be on Sonic Team. the only people who are only working on Sonic Games and their engines. But Sega does direct them to make really bad choices like Sonic Team also with their own choices. You cant really determine which ones are sonic teams or Sega's decisions.

Well, the circus guy can't seem to see the difference between Sega and Sonic Team. I don't really care all that much myself. I only care about if the game is good after release or not. If it's not, I ignore it and wait for the next. If it is, I try to see at what price I value buying it.

Sega could release 3 bad sonic games one after another and then release a good game. They're very unpredictable on this side. (Heck, they did pretty unpredictable things with Sonic series as a whole. Shadow the hedgehog with a gun? Sonic as a were hedgehog? Wow.)