Jiggle Physics -Yes / Dress Breaks - No

[Hiecchi]

Because many people are talking about what they can expect from the game and some people spread some false rumors, i wanted to share the info i have based on the japanese vers.

The game has jiggle physics but the popular "dress break" feature is removed (most likely thanks to Sony).
So dont expect too much Fanservice from the game

This is also the reason why i will not buy the vers. and wait for a sale. I want to support it, but buying a half-baked fanservice game for a full price is a big NoNo from me
Especially after I saw how the Anime had this option (which is also the best evidence that they planned this for the game too)

[Waifu4Life]

Same as me. I'm not much of a Water Sport fan (or any sports for that matter), but I do like to support Marvelous. That being said, not gonna pay for price if there's not going to be much fan service.

[Milkway"]

I'm actually okay with this as It is. I'll buy it for sure

[CommanderZx2]

It is a rather odd situation, they designed something based around a fan service mechanic and then cut it out entirely due to Sony.

The racing and shooting gameplay looks rather mundane and so without the fanservice mechanic of the destructive clothing it feels like there's very little purpose to the game.

[N7 ElusiveOne]

Are we saying Senran Kagura and games similarly designed are not fun or interesting without clothing breaking down to bikini underwear or light shafts? I don't get it.

[Onmitsu]

N7 ElusiveOne lähetti viestin:

Are we saying Senran Kagura and games similarly designed are not fun or interesting without clothing breaking down to bikini underwear or light shafts? I don't get it.

It is all part of what makes Senran Kagura what it is, otherwise it would be only another hack'n slash as the game was designed around the cloth breaking to be more attractive

[Milkway"]

N7 ElusiveOne lähetti viestin:

Are we saying Senran Kagura and games similarly designed are not fun or interesting without clothing breaking down to bikini underwear or light shafts? I don't get it.

This is a good point

[Milkway"]

This may be part of senran kagura, but it is not part of that, or we would have that feature now. (not trying make fight)

[Hiecchi]

N7 ElusiveOne lähetti viestin:

Are we saying Senran Kagura and games similarly designed are not fun or interesting without clothing breaking down to bikini underwear or light shafts? I don't get it.

In the end they would be the same like every other game in that genre
This is the sad truth, Senran Kagura has neither a interesting story (at least since the 3ds titles) or a very great gameplay
Its just your typical anime tropes and the standard gameplay for every hack'n slay

Let me ask you something
Why would anyone play Moero Chronicle or Monpiece, when you can play another Dungeon Crawler or Cardgame, which has a depper gameplay and much more content?
Why would anyone play GalGun without the Fanservice, when you can play every other Railshooter?
What is the appeal of this games and why should someone buy them, when you can choose between 25+ other titles in the same genre?

What makes this games "better" or more "entertaining" than every other title in this genre?
Its the fanservice, otherwise its just one of many other titles
Or how Onmitsu already said;

Onmitsu lähetti viestin:

It is all part of what makes Senran Kagura what it is, otherwise it would be only another hack'n slash as the game was designed around the cloth breaking to be more attractive

[N7 ElusiveOne]

The argument that Senran games are like other games if they dont have clothes breaking is objectively false in every context. There are no other comedic, all-girl, fan service heavy, over-boobed games outside of this developer/publisher realm. You would typically have to watch ecchi anime or "play" a visual novel to see what these games provide. Fan service as a term has been used to mean many things, but it certainly does not exclusively mean clothes breaking to reveal light beams.

[Hiecchi]

N7 ElusiveOne lähetti viestin:

The argument that Senran games are like other games if they dont have clothes breaking is objectively false in every context. There are no other comedic, all-girl, fan service heavy, over-boobed games outside of this developer/publisher realm. You would typically have to watch ecchi anime or "play" a visual novel to see what these games provide. Fan service as a term has been used to mean many things, but it certainly does not exclusively mean clothes breaking to reveal light beams.

The game had always this feature and removing it, takes one of his core elements which was one of the reason why some people even had interest in such a mediocre game.
There are literally 100+ titles like that on sites wie dlsite, some even are avaible on steam.
So saying that games like Senran Kagura doesnt exist is wrong, maybe you should look a little bit harder

Also.....im waiting for the answer to my questions

[N7 ElusiveOne]

Sorry, your questions didn't seem honest. You act as if fan service is an all or nothing thing. Like the fact that the women are even doing what they are doing, plus being all large chested is not already fan service. No, you ask a question about other games removing all fan service, as if its comparable to this series losing one aspect of its fan service. Then you go on to claim that these games are quite common and that Senran Kagura is unique because it has clothing breaking. It is your burden to show these games to me.

There is a quality standard to these games that sets them apart from others. Plus fan service does not only mean what you want it to mean.

And let me make this clear. The clothing breaking in this series is so utterly tame and p-13 that I have no idea how it's taken seriously. A girl can wear a g-string in these games and then have that g-string break to reveal full underwear. How is this the critical feature of the game that if removed makes it suddenly irrelevant? You have to mod these games to make that feature even half as good as people claim it to be.

Well, I did learn one thing. Some people really like the clothing breaking mechanic. And I don't think it's a good thing it's being removed. I simply don't play these games purely for that mechanic. Call me when I can no longer play barbie with the characters, then'll I'll join your outrage.

[Hiecchi]

N7 ElusiveOne lähetti viestin:

plus being all large chested is not already fan service.

True, Fanservice has different meanings, bu this doesnt change the fact that the game we are talking about had this feature in it and it was removed.
Of course people will complain when somethinge is removed, which was promoted in the anime.

N7 ElusiveOne lähetti viestin:

No, you ask a question about other games removing all fan service, as if its comparable to this series losing one aspect of its fan service. Then you go on to claim that these games are quite common and that Senran Kagura is unique because it has clothing breaking. It is your burden to show these games to me.

How about Mahou Arms?
How about Valkyrie Drive?
How about Bullet Girls Phantasia? etc.
The last two are even a "all female cast", has dress breaks features and the last one even has more than your typical melee stuff gameplay.
So, now its your turn to answer my question...

Quality is by the way subjective and not the best argument
Without this "kind" of fanservice ELEMENT, why should you play Senran Kagura when you can play Bayonetta, Nier Automata etc. as a Hack'n Slay or you could play any Musou Game out there, which has the same Gameplay mechanic like Senran Kagura?

N7 ElusiveOne lähetti viestin:

Some people really like the clothing breaking mechanic. And I don't think it's a good thing it's being removed. I simply don't play these games purely for that mechanic. Call me when I can no longer play barbie with the characters, then'll I'll join your outrage.

1. Nobdoy would complain about this missing feature in Kandagawa Jet Girls, when they didnt used this as a feature in the anime.
In that case, everyone would think "they just made the game tame" and not "they removed it"

2.Nobody would complain, when the first Senran Kagura had arrived without this feature. Giving the Fanbase since the first title this feature, even adding it to any spinoff title, only to remove it....of course people would complain, how people complained about the removal for the touch feature in Burst Re:Newal, which was later added back in the steam version.

By the way
I never said, i would not buy it but i will not pay the full price for a game, which has not all features they promoted

[N7 ElusiveOne]

Mahou Arms: Not comedic, not harem-esque, combat focused like Bayonetta, not about over-developed anime girls being cute. Not like Senran at all.

Valkryrie Drive: Literally says in the description "from the creators of Senran Kagura." Why would you use this as an example? You can't claim there are plenty of other games like Senran, and then go to mention other Senran games.

Bullet Girls: This is a good example. Would not avoid if clothing did not break. I would simply dress the girls in less clothing.

Why are you just mentioning other games with playable female characters? How are other mosou games not about over-developed anime girls worth mentioning? Where would a Katsuragi character fit in these other games? Where is the comedy surrounding their breasts? Ecchi is supposed to be funny and silly. There is so much that happens in these games prior to clothing breaking. They do not become Senran when that happens.

Soooooo.... It's obvious my list of reasons why I even look for these games do not include clothing breaking. This must be obvious at this point. It is wrong for me to claim that you shouldn't care about this, so I will retract any claims that hint at that. These games will still have plenty of fan service prior to the literal end of the match/game/race, and I am okay with that.

[Hiecchi]

N7 ElusiveOne lähetti viestin:

Mahou Arms: Not comedic, not harem-esque, combat focused like Bayonetta, not about over-developed anime girls being cute. Not like Senran at all.

We are talking about the gameplay mechani and how a game, tries to appeal to someone who never played the game ever or and tries to appeal to someone.
The first thing most people will do "look at the gameplay"

N7 ElusiveOne lähetti viestin:

Valkryrie Drive: Literally says in the description "from the creators of Senran Kagura." Why would you use this as an example? You can't claim there are plenty of other games like Senran, and then go to mention other Senran games.

Because Valkyrie Drive is a new Franchise, which added much more Fanservice in to the game than Senran Kagura ever had. I assume that people would rather buy Valkyrie Drive than Senran Kagura, especially if the fanservice is much higher than in the other title.

N7 ElusiveOne lähetti viestin:

Why are you just mentioning other games with playable female characters? How are other mosou games not about over-developed anime girls worth mentioning?

Because we are talking about the gameplay, something that is not subjective at all.
This is why i said "why should you play your fanservice railshooter, dungeon crawler" etc.

N7 ElusiveOne lähetti viestin:

Soooooo.... It's obvious my list of reasons why I even look for these games do not include clothing breaking. This must be obvious at this point. It is wrong for me to claim that you shouldn't care about this, so I will retract any claims that hint at that. These games will still have plenty of fan service prior to the literal end of the match/game/race, and I am okay with that.

And like i even said in the thread title
Jiggle Physics are included, this is also fanservice, but dress breaks are removed and its one of the things which were promoted, some or many people care and some dont want to support this decisions or doesnt want to support to 100% like me

At this point its clear that you dont care about it, because its not important for you
But accusing people, who are not okay with this decision, that they only like Senran Kagura because of the Dress Break is wrong (if you really wanted to imply that).
Like i said, removing features in a game which were part of the franchise since day one is not okay and of course people will complain about it, like people now complain that the anime showed something which is not part of the game anymore.

[rincewind]

Honestly I don't care that much about the dress breaks. I mean, it's nice to have, but my main reason to play Senran Kagura and particularly Valkyrie Drive (and hopefully this game) is all about yuri.

Now the question for me is... how much gay will this game be? (I would kill for a Valkyrie Drive 2!!)