Essence Farming?

[Karsk]

I'm kinda stuck on Nightmare and can only get reasonably far with owl. I have most characters upgrades except for the final ones. I have almost got all talents at the 45 row. Should I be getting more upgrades. what character and builds would you suggest? Other than Momo.

[s_welsh]

spiritual assault can be a decent way to farm, since it is just waves of enemies each of which drop essence but it does have its own unlocks and to use them you need to spend like 200 essence but one run will get you that no problem
another method i have seen is to quickly plow through to the first boss kill it then quit out, rinse and repeat, the downside is that it will be boring but efficient.
But the best method i personally know of is only available in reincarnation difficulty, which is to put it on endless and casually steam roll through everything (only hard part is the early game and then your gold) you can even put lone wolf on which supposedly makes the game harder but in exchange you get to pick a spiritual blessing of your choice which actually makes it way easier

[Karsk]

Originally posted by s_welsh:

spiritual assault can be a decent way to farm, since it is just waves of enemies each of which drop essence but it does have its own unlocks and to use them you need to spend like 200 essence but one run will get you that no problem
another method i have seen is to quickly plow through to the first boss kill it then quit out, rinse and repeat, the downside is that it will be boring but efficient.
But the best method i personally know of is only available in reincarnation difficulty, which is to put it on endless and casually steam roll through everything (only hard part is the early game and then your gold) you can even put lone wolf on which supposedly makes the game harder but in exchange you get to pick a spiritual blessing of your choice which actually makes it way easier

Awesome thanks!

[SM5T001]

Nightmare is the hardest difficulty btw. You have to get through it just once to unlock Reincarnation which unlocks a TON of the stuff that buffs you.

[Nodoka]

Originally posted by SM5T001:

Nightmare is the hardest difficulty btw. You have to get through it just once to unlock Reincarnation which unlocks a TON of the stuff that buffs you.

False
Reincarnation 9 is MUCH harder rofl.

[931numbers]

I'd recommend just completing runs on Normal over and over. It's kind of like the suggestion of beating the act 1 boss over and over, but also including the later acts which have bosses dropping more soul essence, and more frequent elite enemies than act 1 which also drop a good handful of soul essence.

Originally posted by Nodoka:

False
Reincarnation 9 is MUCH harder rofl.

A single Painkiller blessing and any elemental damage source, which renders almost every enemy unable to attack and slowly dying no matter how much my damage sucks... says otherwise.

Or maybe I could just stick to a weaker +1000% damage blessing, free buffs from linking scrolls, forcing penalties onto enemies, virtually free buffs from doing simple missions, free buffs from recycling scrolls and making ascensions more consistent by removing ones I don't want if Painkiller is too much.

[Nodoka]

Originally posted by 931numbers:

I'd recommend just completing runs on Normal over and over. It's kind of like the suggestion of beating the act 1 boss over and over, but also including the later acts which have bosses dropping more soul essence, and more frequent elite enemies than act 1 which also drop a good handful of soul essence.

Originally posted by Nodoka:

False
Reincarnation 9 is MUCH harder rofl.

A single Painkiller blessing and any elemental damage source, which renders almost every enemy unable to attack and slowly dying no matter how much my damage sucks... says otherwise.

Or maybe I could just stick to a weaker +1000% damage blessing, free buffs from linking scrolls, forcing penalties onto enemies, virtually free buffs from doing simple missions, free buffs from recycling scrolls and making ascensions more consistent by removing ones I don't want if Painkiller is too much.

Can be used on nightmare aswell. And what you are mentioning apart from painkiller is things you can add onto the base game apart from endless jourjney. These are not active by default.

[SM5T001]

No, you can't use blessings and Bizarre Dream modifiers on Nightmare.

[Nodoka]

Then I have either not played nightmare since it was introduced or im just forgetting things.
But I would still say reincarnation is way harder just dont use bizzare dream modifiers. Painkiller is broken yes but its not going to make the run free for you.

[nul]

Originally posted by Nodoka:

Then I have either not played nightmare since it was introduced or im just forgetting things.
But I would still say reincarnation is way harder just dont use bizzare dream modifiers. Painkiller is broken yes but its not going to make the run free for you.

blessings and enhanced scrolls are enough to make it easier alone. without self imposed challenges (even leaving dreams off), the only thing that really makes r9 'hard' is that you can sometimes accidentally die in one hit if you aren't paying attention.

[Action Gooseman]

Originally posted by Nodoka:

just dont use bizzare dream modifiers.

You're shifting goalposts. The original point is that r9 is easier than nightmare, and with r9's features I would also say nightmare is more difficult. Granted, I did also struggle with r9 at first since they introduce new enemy behavior/patterns but after that learning curve it's all the same.
Reincarnation in general allows enough features and significant power boosts that it is a step down from nightmare despite being portrayed as a higher difficulty level. We are also talking to someone who is struggling with clearing a difficulty so trying to inflate an entirely different difficulty is irrelevant and useless.

Originally posted by Karsk:

I'm kinda stuck on Nightmare and can only get reasonably far with owl. I have most characters upgrades except for the final ones. I have almost got all talents at the 45 row. Should I be getting more upgrades. what character and builds would you suggest? Other than Momo.

Nona is also pretty good since you have owl. She is immediately powerful and can play much more defensively. Owl has a hard time getting the ball rolling. Most other heroes can perform fine, 90% of the difficulty in this game is in the stage 1 tomb so anybody that can fare pretty well there is going to be a-okay. Nona is the most practical at this, she doesn't quite scale to the moon late game like everybody else but if you're just looking to clear nightmare you can't really go wrong with her melee mech/missile spam builds.

I highly recommend going back to the inn after beating boat/snake if you're just looking to get past the nightmare filter. Essence comes in droves when you hit reincarnation because it's used as currency in that game mode so if you can manage it, I would recommend getting to r1 at least.

As for your current talent levels, the 60's have some important ones like recycling. Benevolence is good if you play with other people. Exclusive inscriptions can make weapons much more interesting to use. I don't have a reference for your hero talents but they tend to peak at the 4th upgrade and the 5th tends to be a small but nice bonus to have if you have essence to spare.

[Losk Osmanthus 路渐秋凉]

play multiplayers?

transfer host by quitting game in correct order and then some.

[Lunacy]

Originally posted by Nodoka:

Originally posted by SM5T001:

Nightmare is the hardest difficulty btw. You have to get through it just once to unlock Reincarnation which unlocks a TON of the stuff that buffs you.

False
Reincarnation 9 is MUCH harder rofl.

I usually have more trouble on nightmare just due to the lack of ascensions.

[Losk Osmanthus 路渐秋凉]

Originally posted by Nodoka:

Originally posted by SM5T001:

Nightmare is the hardest difficulty btw. You have to get through it just once to unlock Reincarnation which unlocks a TON of the stuff that buffs you.

False
Reincarnation 9 is MUCH harder rofl.

False
Nightmare is MUCH harder rofl.

[Nodoka]

So after having done 5-6 runs on nightmare with classic mode its very safe to say that there is no threat of dying at all, the game plays at the speed of a dying snail.
Nothing should even come close to down you if you play safe and correct.
How you guys consider nightmare to be harder or hard at all is beyond me.

Here is my latest run with Owl on nightmare classic -100% damage reduction btw and I think I got hit maybe twice in the whole run...
https://i.imgur.com/6ecQDc7.png

[nul]

Originally posted by Nodoka:

Owl

about that