Max Payne

Max Payne

Uncle Jon 2021 年 5 月 2 日 上午 4:10
How bad is the Max Payne movie?
Video game films are typically horrible, and I think I have heard the film based on this series is also bad. What are your thoughts on it?
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Sizercopter 2021 年 5 月 2 日 上午 5:41 
Think of something bad in your mind and multiply it by 20. Here the movie is that bad
Jinn-Gon Qui 2021 年 5 月 3 日 上午 7:34 
The movie is 90% inaccurate to the main plot. This raises so many questions as to why the film sucked, and had it released under a different name, maybe it would've been decent.

- what's with the stupid bad blood between Max and Alex? Also, why Alex looks like a hobo (no offense to the actor with the looks he had during filming)?

- there's no mention of the Punchinello crime family, and the sisters, being Mona and Lisa, are both Russian instead of, supposedly, Italian. This includes Vladimir Lem's absence and there's no indication of the crime wars between the Italian mafia and the Russian mafia. And where's Vinnie Gognitti?!

- maybe in today's standards this may be considered racism, but Jim Bravura isn't black; he's an old, white man with a huge mustache. If you take Commissioner James Gordon from DC and crop him to Max Payne, you get a perfect match. Hell, both Max Payne and The Dark Knight were released on the same year, so why not pay the authentic Gary Oldman with his perfect mustache to portray Jim Bravura?

- most of the bosses in the game are nonexistent in the film, with the exception of Jack Lupino, who's portrayed by a Latino (?), and Nicole Horne lives on. They did reference the origin of the Valkyr drug, as a means to boost the army's physical abilities, including test subjects. But I don't recall Lupino ever being one or the other, never mind lacking the frightening charisma of the game. Was it so hard to write the perfect crime/drug lord?

- there's not a single mention of the supernatural and demonic entities, but vivid hallucinations and mental deterioration of the individual upon the user who consumes Valkyr - and that's another problem in itself. One could argue this was missing in the game, but the game portrays mental deterioration and reckless behavior, not driving the drug user into their ultimate death. And Valkyr is blue, not green! Why was it so hard to use the original color?

- they literally had James McCaffrey, the voice of Max Payne in the movie, who looks astonishingly accurate to the character than 5' 8" Mark Wahlberg who displays no similarities to the video game character, whatsoever. Sure, at the time he was nearing his 50s, but Mark was nearing his 40s, and Max Payne himself was in his early 30s. Could've gone with a younger actor.

- instead of going on a three-day journey of sweet revenge and rampage, Max investigates the murder of his family like it's just another police case he accepted to investigate.

Beside the Norse mythology, in spite of the fact that Valkyrie themselves, as the name used for the drug are female warriors/angels and not demonic beings, and B.B.'s characteristic, these seem like the best adaptation from the game.
最後修改者:Jinn-Gon Qui; 2021 年 5 月 3 日 上午 7:34
BurgerJoe 2021 年 5 月 4 日 上午 12:39 
It's not as bad as House of the Dead or FarCry movies. but it didn't follow the plot of the game and has a stupid story that doesn't make sense.It also take Max 50 minutes to start shooting at bad guys, he didn't even use dual Berettas and barely use bullet time in the movie...just watch Hard Boiled instead
Sizercopter 2021 年 5 月 4 日 上午 10:57 
John Woo's movies are much better.
Jinn-Gon Qui 2021 年 5 月 6 日 上午 4:36 
I'm going to commit a sin. I'm going to watch the movie again, just to see how much I was right in my comparisons.

As others have already stated, just watch John Woo's films. Chow Yun-fat is the epitome of what Max Payne is.
squid named finger 2021 年 5 月 26 日 上午 2:54 
its bad
Piano man 2021 年 5 月 28 日 下午 6:47 
引用自 Sick Chuck
Don't forget the Marky Mark, he should have sticked to the those stupid workout vids.

Hey - that's not entirely true. Mark Wahlberg is a great actor. He also does resemble Max Payne to an extent. Yes, the movie sucked - the plot was terrible and had very little to do with the actual game, but had they followed the games plot, the movie could have been MUCH, MUCH better.

Don't blame Mark Wahlberg - he also has that gravelly tone that Max Paynes voice has.
UmbralPenumbra 2021 年 6 月 18 日 下午 9:28 
It's a 90 minute movie, there's only so many ways you can try to cram 8+ hours worth of an interactive medium's story into less than 2 hours of uninteractive watching. As some already pointed out the movie basically has nothing to do with the game other than some names and a few setpieces. That plus, movies are trying to have enough mass appeal to at least make back what they spent on it, so it has to be watered down and remove most of the grittier elements. Casting Ludacris as Bravura was odd, but he handled the role really well IMO. I actually like the movie, but I'm weird and easy to please so I'm fully aware most people aren't going to share that opinion
J.P 2021 年 6 月 25 日 上午 8:49 
I watched it again very recently after a long absence from Max Payne, and the Movie, atleast a decade at this point.

I can actually say watching the movie again without fixating on where the plot should be following, as a Standalone movie, its pretty good, yeah it does miss quite a few of the storylines from the game but of course they can't cram it all in, and there is some things they've altered and changed.

But looking at it for what it is, simply an Alternate version of the games storyline...its pretty good, I enjoyed it much more on the rewatch than my first time.
Top Dollar 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 3:26 
The plot of Max Payne the game is an undercover cop whose contacts in the NYPD - the ONLY people who know he's an undercover cop - have all been murdered on the same night. At the same time, someone - presumably the killer - has informed his criminal cohorts of his true nature as an undercover cop. This results in Max being hunted across New York City by both cops AND criminals, all while trying to discover the identity of the killer. As the story progresses it becomes apparent that whatever is going on is connected to the brutal murder of his wife and child 3 years earlier - the event that motivated Max into going undercover in the criminal underworld to take on the distributors of the drug Valkir and find its source in the first place.

The movie is about a cop (not undercover) who is simply investigating what happened to his wife and child. There's no element of undercover cop in the mafia. In fact, the Italian American mafia are completely 100% absent in the movie. Vinnie Cognitti, the Finito Brothers etc are all absent in the movie. One of the Italian American mafia boss characters is turned, for someone reason, into an ex-military commando. Neither is the Russian mafia or Vladimir Lem present at all. These were HUGE parts of the Max Payne game plot and leaving them out of any adaptation begs the question why one would bother adapting it in the first place.

In Max Payne the game, Jim Bravura is a middle aged overweight white man. In Max Payne the movie, Jim Bravura is a young lean black man (played by rapper Ludacris if I remember rightly). It's funny how people scream "white washing!" and "racism!" when a character is turned from non-white to white from source material to adaptation, but when it happens in the reverse there's either complete silence, or, in fact, it's celebrated. Some characters it's not a big deal, but Jim Bravura kinda only works as a cranky middle aged fat white guy.

The movie swaps out the game's mafia warfare plot with one about the military experimenting with drugs to create perfect soldiers (yawn).


On top of all that the movie doesn't contain ANY music from the games, the classic theme etc. Nor does it have any film noir atmosphere or aesthetics. In fact, the Max Payne movie looks like any generic modern action movie.

A lot of people complain about Mark Wahlberg but I honestly didn't have a problem with him playing Max. I like Wahlberg, generally, and he looks enough like Max. I think the problem was he had an awful script to work with. I think a good Max Payne movie starring Wahlberg as Max COULD have been made, but like with all video game movies so far the studios seem to put filmmakers who have zero passion for the project in charge of adapting games to movies. They know the movie will make money regardless of how good it is because it has an existing fanbase who will pay to see it even if they know it sucks. These filmmakers, so far, seem to see these videogame movies as "easy gigs", an opportunity for them to kick back and knock out a movie at their own pace with minimal effort. I genuinely believe it's possible to make a good movie of a video game, it's just no filmmaker has actually made the effort yet.

I'm hoping the Uncharted movie is the first to buck this trend, although I'm apprehensive, not least because the movie stars, ironically, Mark Wahlberg as Sully....which is something I just cannot see working at all.

Also, the recent leaked photos of the Halo TV series looks surprisingly good. it's hard to tell from just 10 images, but damn... Fingers crossed!
最後修改者:Top Dollar; 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 3:26
Jinn-Gon Qui 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 4:05 
引用自 Top Dollar
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You left out the part that Max is actually a DEA agent after his family were murdered. Offered to him by his partner Alex Balder, on the same day before his family were murdered, no less! It's a significant aspect to the story, as we learn the Valkyr drug is a non-police issue anymore. At least they tried to get the drug's origin right in the movie. Otherwise, good points!

引用自 Top Dollar
A lot of people complain about Mark Wahlberg but I honestly didn't have a problem with him playing Max. I like Wahlberg, generally, and he looks enough like Max. I think the problem was he had an awful script to work with. I think a good Max Payne movie starring Wahlberg as Max COULD have been made, but like with all video game movies so far the studios seem to put filmmakers who have zero passion for the project in charge of adapting games to movies. They know the movie will make money regardless of how good it is because it has an existing fanbase who will pay to see it even if they know it sucks. These filmmakers, so far, seem to see these videogame movies as "easy gigs", an opportunity for them to kick back and knock out a movie at their own pace with minimal effort. I genuinely believe it's possible to make a good movie of a video game, it's just no filmmaker has actually made the effort yet.

The box office of the film doubled the $35M budget with $15M more on top. Not exactly a success, in my opinion, just lucky. And well, I do complain about Mark, just as I had in my previous comment/s. But I will give him the benefit of the doubt. It was indeed a horrible script to work around.
D I A B L O 2021 年 7 月 13 日 上午 10:53 
引用自 BurgerJoe
It's not as bad as House of the Dead or FarCry movies. but it didn't follow the plot of the game and has a stupid story that doesn't make sense.It also take Max 50 minutes to start shooting at bad guys, he didn't even use dual Berettas and barely use bullet time in the movie...just watch Hard Boiled instead
ther are far cry movies?
UmbralPenumbra 2021 年 7 月 13 日 上午 11:05 
Uwe Boll movies aren't that bad
Postal was actually amazing
ThunderHorz 2021 年 7 月 18 日 下午 3:02 
You want a good video reviewing it? then check this one out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUfQQn9MS6I
最後修改者:ThunderHorz; 2021 年 7 月 18 日 下午 3:02
Uncle Jon 2021 年 7 月 18 日 下午 3:13 
引用自 ThunderHorz
You want a good video reviewing it? then check this one out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUfQQn9MS6I
I didn't know civvie did a movie review
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