Max Payne created by 3D Realms?

[Joe Stanley Laserpants]

3D Realms didn't create Max Payne, that was Remedy Entertainment.

3D Realms wasn't even the publisher, that was Gathering of Developers for the first game, and Rockstar for the second and third.

Trying to cash in on nostalgia they didn't even create. Nice.

EDIT: This post was moved to the Max Payne forum from the Ion Fury forum, likely at the request of the mods there.

[Morthoseth]

3DRealms was the producer.

[Joe Stanley Laserpants]

Originally posted by Morthoseth:

3DRealms was the producer.

Still not the creator.

[nakoda]

Originally posted by Joe Stanley Laserpants:

Originally posted by Morthoseth:

3DRealms was the producer.

Still not the creator.

Perhaps you don't know what "producers" do?

hint: it's in the name.

[Romero]

https://3drealms.com/news/making-max-payne/

without 3d realms there would be no max payne so shut the ♥♥♥♥ up

[Joe Stanley Laserpants]

Originally posted by nakoda:

Originally posted by Joe Stanley Laserpants:

Still not the creator.

Perhaps you don't know what "producers" do?

hint: it's in the name.

They still didn't create it.

Producing and creating are not the same thing.

Originally posted by Romero:

without 3d realms there would be no max payne so shut the ♥♥♥♥ up

Unprovable, and hence a worthless statement to make. You have no way of knowing that Max Payne would not have been picked up by another producer.

[Romero]

Originally posted by Joe Stanley Laserpants:

Originally posted by nakoda:

Perhaps you don't know what "producers" do?

hint: it's in the name.

They still didn't create it.

Producing and creating are not the same thing.

Originally posted by Romero:

without 3d realms there would be no max payne so shut the ♥♥♥♥ up

Unprovable, and hence a worthless statement to make. You have no way of knowing that Max Payne would not have been picked up by another publisher.

https://3drealms.com/news/making-max-payne/
https://3drealms.com/news/making-max-payne/
https://3drealms.com/news/making-max-payne/
https://3drealms.com/news/making-max-payne/
https://3drealms.com/news/making-max-payne/
https://3drealms.com/news/making-max-payne/
https://3drealms.com/news/making-max-payne/

♥♥♥♥ off ♥♥♥♥♥

[Joe Stanley Laserpants]

Originally posted by Romero:

Originally posted by Joe Stanley Laserpants:

They still didn't create it.

Producing and creating are not the same thing.



Unprovable, and hence a worthless statement to make. You have no way of knowing that Max Payne would not have been picked up by another publisher.

https://3drealms.com/news/making-max-payne/
https://3drealms.com/news/making-max-payne/
https://3drealms.com/news/making-max-payne/
https://3drealms.com/news/making-max-payne/
https://3drealms.com/news/making-max-payne/
https://3drealms.com/news/making-max-payne/
https://3drealms.com/news/making-max-payne/

♥♥♥♥ off ♥♥♥♥♥

You didn't actually read that article, did you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Payne_(video_game)

You know what I don't see on the wikipedia article for any of the Max Payne games? A developer credit for 3D Realms. That's because they didn't develop any of them. They just produced - that is, signed the checks to fund - the first two games. That's all.

[Morthoseth]

A producer oversees development.

[Joe Stanley Laserpants]

Originally posted by Morthoseth:

A producer oversees development.

A producer does not actually develop.

Max Payne was created and developed entirely in-house by Remedy.

[Retodon8]

Why are you guys talking about Max Payne in an Ion Fury forum?

[Panic Fire]

Originally posted by Joe Stanley Laserpants:

Originally posted by nakoda:

Perhaps you don't know what "producers" do?

hint: it's in the name.

They still didn't create it.

Producing and creating are not the same thing.

Originally posted by Romero:

without 3d realms there would be no max payne so shut the ♥♥♥♥ up

Unprovable, and hence a worthless statement to make. You have no way of knowing that Max Payne would not have been picked up by another producer.

Remedy shopped max payne around and no one was willing to invest in there studio besides Mike Miller. The game literally would not have been made. Same for Decent.

[Panc]

I'd say producer is a part of creator role and it's an important role in making games, movies, music etc. They finance the project as well as oversees the project to make sure the project is a financial success. It isn't an easy job and they either make or break the project. Sometimes they are even more important than the directors as they could produce the project with their own creative idea.

Disregarding producer's role as "just bunch of dudes who are willing to give money" is stupid, they literally control the creative process. The are, part and the core of the creative process.

I know that it's easy to vilify them as they are the ones who could force directors to choose a commercial friendly route to make project an easy money product. However they are also the ones that encourages or bring experimental idea to the director, which probably was the case for Max Payne as it was a very unique game for its time.

[Mr. Tastix]

Yes, I found this statement weird as heck, frankly.

They didn't make Prey either, for the same reason, and I personally wouldn't use Prey as a shining example of things 3D Realms produced either (it was mediocre by every definition of the word).

Noting that 3D Realms didn't produce those games officially either, it was the two founders of the studio that did.

[The Dukenator]

Originally posted by MrTastix:

Yes, I found this statement weird as heck, frankly.

They didn't make Prey either, for the same reason, and I personally wouldn't use Prey as a shining example of things 3D Realms produced either (it was mediocre by every definition of the word).

Noting that 3D Realms didn't produce those games officially either, it was the two founders of the studio that did.

While Prey 2006 was done by Human Head, Prey was in development prior to that.

Prey 2017 was developed by Arkane and is a completely different game from Human Head.

[Morthoseth]

At the very end of the video the production is credited to 3D Realms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NQzizdf7kg

Same goes for Prey (2006)
the 3D Realms logo is on the cover.
https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/box/2/7/3/6273_front.jpg