DEATH STRANDING

DEATH STRANDING

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Viper 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 4:42
The landscape doesn't really represent the actual US
For example everywhere seems to be very mountainous I reliaze its for gameplay regions . But towards the begining when trrekking through what would be Ohio. It looks nothing like it.
最後修改者:Viper; 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 5:02
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Fawx 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 5:59 
引用自 Howl
I think the Timefall is why the terrain is mostly Mountains. it accelerates the flow of time for any thing it hits.
This is the answer, it's explained in game in one of the data entries. The timefall has wiped out most of the living animals on earth and massively altered the geological landscape. It's why there are very few remnants of human life, it's all been eroded away.
Ysgramor 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 6:11 
TBH...feels REALLY BAD and WRONG the way the game wants to fit USA map into the game map. I mean...It's so wrong...you walk 30 minutes and you cross an state. IThe map is great but the whole USA reconnection idea doesn't fit and it is really anticlimatic.
DiscoMoose 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 6:16 
引用自 Ysgramor
TBH...feels REALLY BAD and WRONG the way the game wants to fit USA map into the game map. I mean...It's so wrong...you walk 30 minutes and you cross an state. IThe map is great but the whole USA reconnection idea doesn't fit and it is really anticlimatic.
Yeah that is pretty jarring when you walk a few blocks and on the map it’s like “O ♥♥♥♥, you’ve crossed like 10 state lines!” :lunar2019crylaughingpig:
k'nt (已封鎖) 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 6:23 
引用自 Fawx
引用自 Howl
I think the Timefall is why the terrain is mostly Mountains. it accelerates the flow of time for any thing it hits.
This is the answer, it's explained in game in one of the data entries. The timefall has wiped out most of the living animals on earth and massively altered the geological landscape. It's why there are very few remnants of human life, it's all been eroded away.

You are dealing with so many people on here that don't read text so it's best to just ignore them probably. Spinning theories on established lore facts, it's kind of sad that they even buy the game at all, flooding proper discussion with junk discussion.
Viper 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 6:38 
引用自 strelok
引用自 Fawx
This is the answer, it's explained in game in one of the data entries. The timefall has wiped out most of the living animals on earth and massively altered the geological landscape. It's why there are very few remnants of human life, it's all been eroded away.

You are dealing with so many people on here that don't read text so it's best to just ignore them probably. Spinning theories on established lore facts, it's kind of sad that they even buy the game at all, flooding proper discussion with junk discussion.

Maybe you should just ignore topics you don't want to participate in. We can discuss whatever we want.
Joan 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 6:58 
Yes, you're right.
But somehow it's very logical. It's not the real America, it's the Death Stranding America, which is greatly changed after the void. It's how the story sets it.
The terrain in the game is based on Iceland, that's why it's not like America at all. But the settings are still much logical than that famous The Handmaid's Tale, in which the nuclear wastes leaked from Power Plants in South California traveled over the Pacific Mountains then over the Rocky Mountains and ruined the middle and east America, which is ridiculous. In Death Stranding the terrain is generally stretched like the North America continent. The terrorists in the game blown out almost the whole south middle America into the Gulf of Mexico, and you'll even get a mission which involves a Spanish-speaking character in the south.
Just like the memo, whatever you do, there is always an Asian better than you. Kojima did it very right.

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For the map size issue, I don't think it's silly. First of all PlayStation 4 sucks and it can't even maintain stable 1080p 60 fps for most of the games it runs. Second if the maps is 1/100 or 1/1000 whatever larger than current size, the gameplay and content would be extremely hard to design and make, and Kojima just left Konami and formed his new team with almost no resources. You guys should stop ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about the map size issue.
最後修改者:Joan; 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 7:07
InstableMonster 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 7:02 
You mean a game where you can cross a continent in about 30min of car ride isnt representative of the real life US? Who would have thonk it
Segovax 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 7:18 
引用自 Cyrus40K
Yes, you're right.
But somehow it's very logical. It's not the real America, it's the Death Stranding America, which is greatly changed after the void. It's how the story sets it.
The terrain in the game is based on Iceland, that's why it's not like America at all. But the settings are still much logical than that famous The Handmaid's Tale, in which the nuclear wastes leaked from Power Plants in South California traveled over the Pacific Mountains then over the Rocky Mountains and ruined the middle and east America, which is ridiculous. In Death Stranding the terrain is generally stretched like the North America continent. The terrorists in the game blown out almost the whole south middle America into the Gulf of Mexico, and you'll even get a mission which involves a Spanish-speaking character in the south.
Just like the memo, whatever you do, there is always an Asian better than you. Kojima did it very right.

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For the map size issue, I don't think it's silly. First of all PlayStation 4 sucks and it can't even maintain stable 1080p 60 fps for most of the games it runs. Second if the maps is 1/100 or 1/1000 whatever larger than current size, the gameplay and content would be extremely hard to design and make, and Kojima just left Konami and formed his new team with almost no resources. You guys should stop ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about the map size issue.

Why not set it in Iceland then?

There is a difference between misunderstanding how nuclear waste works 40 years ago - and bear in mind, that book was written in 1985, so if you're going to ♥♥♥♥ all over that then you best be prepared to ♥♥♥♥ all over Aliens, Terminator 2, et al of the 80s - and not understanding basic geography in the current era of overwhelming information where a GPS is a common household commodity. If the developer chose to make it Iceland instead of America then he did so intentionally because he had a reason, or because he was a lazy writer who didn't feel like doing his research.

From reading the posts here, it sounds like he was lazy.
Tamaster 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 7:24 
If you knew the lore of the game better, you would understand why for both points.

1. The map doesn't look like the US we have now because the whole continent was affacted by the effects of Timefall, which accellerates the passing time for everything it touches. This has been going on for at least several decades - every part of the landscape aged, evolved and changed at an accelerated pace for decades, so the effective change it underwent was CENTURIES of effective time passage.

2. The scale. There are two reasons, the first is purely technical because there is no way in hell even with the current technology, you could re-create the whole USA virtually with the level of detail involved to death stranding. The costs, performance requirements, time and level of precision involved, not to mention the sheer space it would occupy, is something beyond current game technology.

Also there is a lore reason. It is explained in the lore files that the Death Stranding affects the perception of passing time in a major way for people. Especially when you are expeosed to the outside (timefall, BTs etc). So the smaller scale in my opinion is to represent this fact in a practical sense.
最後修改者:Tamaster; 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 7:28
ModZero 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 7:48 
引用自 Dregora
引用自 M.Spengler
Thats why : https://grapevine.is/news/2019/11/19/hideo-kojimas-death-stranding-is-totally-set-in-iceland/

In game it's still America whether we like it or not.

Nope. It's Iceland, people are just super confused due to the lack of both Internet and GPS. The actual America got cancelled 50 years before the Death Stranding.
Mista Dobalina 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 7:50 
引用自 🅱🅾🆁🅶
How would it even look anything close to real world when the game world is post apocalyptic.
A massive world event called the Death Stranding literally changed the face of the earth.
i lol'd
Viper 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 7:53 
引用自 Tamaster
If you knew the lore of the game better, you would understand why for both points.

1. The map doesn't look like the US we have now because the whole continent was affacted by the effects of Timefall, which accellerates the passing time for everything it touches. This has been going on for at least several decades - every part of the landscape aged, evolved and changed at an accelerated pace for decades, so the effective change it underwent was CENTURIES of effective time passage.

2. The scale. There are two reasons, the first is purely technical because there is no way in hell even with the current technology, you could re-create the whole USA virtually with the level of detail involved to death stranding. The costs, performance requirements, time and level of precision involved, not to mention the sheer space it would occupy, is something beyond current game technology.

Also there is a lore reason. It is explained in the lore files that the Death Stranding affects the perception of passing time in a major way for people. Especially when you are expeosed to the outside (timefall, BTs etc). So the smaller scale in my opinion is to represent this fact in a practical sense.

The continent would change only by inches to a foot or two in a couple of centuries. It takes many millions of years to make a mountain.
最後修改者:Viper; 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 7:54
Face_roll_dude 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 8:03 
引用自 Viper
引用自 Tamaster
If you knew the lore of the game better, you would understand why for both points.

1. The map doesn't look like the US we have now because the whole continent was affacted by the effects of Timefall, which accellerates the passing time for everything it touches. This has been going on for at least several decades - every part of the landscape aged, evolved and changed at an accelerated pace for decades, so the effective change it underwent was CENTURIES of effective time passage.

2. The scale. There are two reasons, the first is purely technical because there is no way in hell even with the current technology, you could re-create the whole USA virtually with the level of detail involved to death stranding. The costs, performance requirements, time and level of precision involved, not to mention the sheer space it would occupy, is something beyond current game technology.

Also there is a lore reason. It is explained in the lore files that the Death Stranding affects the perception of passing time in a major way for people. Especially when you are expeosed to the outside (timefall, BTs etc). So the smaller scale in my opinion is to represent this fact in a practical sense.

The continent would change only by inches to a foot or two in a couple of centuries. It takes many millions of years to make a mountain.

so i guess you wrote up the lore for this game then? lol why do you get to decide it would only change by about a foot every couple of centuries?
Viper 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 8:14 
引用自 Face_roll_dude
引用自 Viper

The continent would change only by inches to a foot or two in a couple of centuries. It takes many millions of years to make a mountain.

so i guess you wrote up the lore for this game then? lol why do you get to decide it would only change by about a foot every couple of centuries?

Because that is how the world works. Mountains are made by pressure when two plates meet each other and push the earth upwards. They move by inches over years of time. Its not lore or anthing else. Its just the science of how this planet works.
Viper 2020 年 7 月 18 日 下午 8:15 
But its all Science Fiction so they can do what they want. I'm not complaining. Its doesn't annoy me is the least.
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