Weapons you use in the game but wouldn't like in rl?

[Mr.Softy]

I've been looking up some youtube videos for the red dead guns, because some of them were new to me, and I kept thinking "Oh wow, some of these are so bad!"

For example -
I use the Navy Revolver, which is from 1851.
If you look up videos of that thing, it's a percussion cap revolver.

That means you have to stuff the powder and bullet in each chamber with that little rod under the barrel, and also put six new percussion caps on the cylinder.
So, reloading this thing probably wasn't something they'd do in a gunfight.

It's the same for the LeMat revolver, a lengthy reload process for 9 shots and a shotgun bonus.

Cattleman revolver has cartridges, but reloading still takes a long time.

If I had to pick one of the revolvers in rl, I'd probably go for the Schofield Revolver, since it has a break-away action like a double barrel shotgun, and it used cartridges.
So, reloading must have been much faster, it even ejected the spent casings when you opened it.

Another option would be the double-action revolver.
It sucks in the game, but it is actually the most modern revolver there is.

The choice of pistol would be the easiest.
Mauser pistols.
German precision engineering.

For repeaters there is only one choice.
Lancaster repeater, which is the Winchester 1866.
The Litchfield would be the 1860 Henry Rifle.
The 1866 Winchester has a loading gate in the frame, and a handguard around the barrel.
The Henry had no handguard at the front, and had to be reloaded at the front with a magazine tube that was open at the bottom.
So, that gets hot and dirty quickly.

Best choice of shotgun would probably be the semi-auto shotgun.
The Browning Auto-5 in real life.
The Pump-action shotgun was also very high-tech at the time, but the action was not perfected yet.

Springfield Rifle and the Rolling Block rifle have nice technical features, given the time they were made.
But if you leave aside the videogame stats, the Carcano and the Bolt Action Rifle (Kraig Jorgensen) are technically far superior.

So yeah, these are my thoughts.

What are your in-game picks you love to use, but find it a bit crude and not really effective in real life?

[morrisonjake05]

that was how they did it back than, they had no choice but for the lenghty process of reloading, thats why in the civil war they had lines of troops that would shoot first and than the second line would go forward and commence, as for the carcano and the kraig jorgenson, they were made in the 1890 i bellieve, first of the spitzer catridge, as they werent lever actions with a 6 to 10 round tube, creating problems with the pointy projectiles touching the primers on feeding and recoil. the mauser c76, with a 7.62 french long or 8mm pistol catrige, before going to the 9mm in future were very good.. and yes the scofield was the first for its time to implement a a hook extractor. as for the game itself its not too bad.... but there is many more rifles they could added like the 1891 mosin nagant

[Lord SMG]

Evan's Repeater is my favorite gun in game, just like it was in Red Dead 1, and it is still something I'd like to own as a mantle piece someday, but there are a couple reasons the high capacity didn't succeed in making it as popular as the Winchester or other lever guns at the time.

One advantage that also ends up being a disadvantage is the loading mechanism. It's loaded in the stock of the gun using sort of a cork screw system. There's no springs involved, the lever rotates the loading tube which pushes the next round forward. The positive is no springs, therefore you don't have to replace one if it breaks for some reason, and since it's in a corkscrew shape you don't have to worry about the tip of one cartridge setting off the primer of the one infront of it. The downside is you can't top off the tube mag like you can in game. Say you fired a round, then loaded the next one, if you added a round before shooting the next one, there'd still be an empty space in the tube.

Another downside is it used its own oddball cartridge which was technically a shorter variation of the .44. You won't be able to buy ammo for an Evan's nowadays, making it only good for display purposes.

Forgotten Weapons has a really good video about it if people want to know more.

[Doomier Guy]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mr.Softy:

Another option would be the double-action revolver.
It sucks in the game, but it is actually the most modern revolver there is.

Double action revolvers when dual wielded are actually quite good. You can pop 12 rounds down range really quickly.

But yeah the Mauser probably wins the handgun category because it's a self loading semi-auto.

[Maschinengewehr]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Munithe EXT:

Isn't the M1899 a Colt 1911? I would take that over the Mauser. Kinda weird they called it a Mauser anyway, Lugers used 9mm round and Mauser was 7.92.

No the M1899 in the game is the FN Modele 1899/FN M1900. The M1911 wasn't adopted until its namesake, 1911.

[felmari]

most of them. guess the revolvers are fine especially .357 mag and others of similar calibre for home defense for intimidation and the punch they bring pump shotgun for same reason. most of the weapons though are just not as effective as todays weapons. tech progress and all that. mostly everything had to be chambered manually even though there was progress with that ie tube and lever the natural progression was to mechanically automate that too not to mention design better munition feeding as well. we can see the progress in game with the semi's though they are brand new inventions and not common.

though not ingame they did have quick loaders. basically a thing that held the bullets in the right shape that would load all six at the same time.

[Skrubble]

Does the lasso count?

[PafunaMT]

I'd have to say the Navy Colts; love them in the game, use them all the time, but the reload IRL as mentioned above is a pain in the ass, as with all cap and ball shooters. Fortunately the 1861 models were converted to cartridges in 1869 and after.

[Ser Slack]

A quick reload would need a spare cylinder already loaded. A lot easier to just drop the pin and spent cylinder then reloading. I think it was fairly common.

[2ugly]

I found that it didn't matter what weapon you took off your horse.... The game decides what you use during any mission. After 2 if these instances.... I pretty much gave up on the SP part of the game, and wasn't interested in RS's idea of a MP game. Just be glad they don't have you do some stupid unrelated mini game aka Atlas to reload your revolver.

[felmari]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von 2ugly:

I found that it didn't matter what weapon you took off your horse.... The game decides what you use during any mission. After 2 if these instances.... I pretty much gave up on the SP part of the game, and wasn't interested in RS's idea of a MP game. Just be glad they don't have you do some stupid unrelated mini game aka Atlas to reload your revolver.

you can set your weapon load at the weapon shop. many missions you start on your horse so can change just have to remember to check your weapon loadout also make sure its what you set when you get off horse or just get off horse and then change.

i wish weapons were handled a little differently too though though its almost exactly like gta5.

[Doomier Guy]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Munithe EXT:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Maschinengewehr:

No the M1899 in the game is the FN Modele 1899/FN M1900. The M1911 wasn't adopted until its namesake, 1911.

Yeah, that's why I figured it was called M1899.

It's not the same gun fam. That's what he is saying.

[Maschinengewehr]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Munithe EXT:

I know it is not the same gun.

Then why ask the question in the first place?

[PietPeuk]

Somebody has to say it: I do not "like" any weapon irl

[Maschinengewehr]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von PietPeuk:

Somebody has to say it: I do not "like" any weapon irl

I'd love to own one but my country's laws basically prohibit it.

[Mary]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von PietPeuk:

Somebody has to say it: I do not "like" any weapon irl

I suppose it would depend on the context, if one gets that deep into it.