Red Dead Redemption 2

Red Dead Redemption 2

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WarMask Dec 6, 2019 @ 8:46am
I'm not paying for full price
I'm sorry. But I'm a pure PC player. And I feel betrayed.
They made RDR1 on console only. Then RDR2 on console for years before releasing to PC. I'm not buying it at full price.

I've set the value for this game at 15$ or less.

And cherry on top, they made special and ultimate versions... I mean, shameless. Unequality in gaming.

So, I would like to start a group of Punishers to get back at developpers who act like that. They want money? Okay. We will deny them our money.

Is anyone feeling the same? If not, explain it. I'm really interested.

FYI: I did the same for GTA5. Waited a lot before buying the game. And I'm still unhappy about many aspects of the game that suffer from the console design.

I think that console gaming is inferior to PC gaming. Due to the limitations of the gaming platform, the controlers, the player communtiy etc... And I believe that game designed for console then ported to PC are awful. GTA5 is a good example of this.

Anyway... Who is with me?
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󠀡 Dec 6, 2019 @ 9:24am 
FYI: literally no one cares m8
Spooky7.62 Dec 6, 2019 @ 9:24am 
Rdr2 was out for 1 year not years
ambi Dec 6, 2019 @ 9:39am 
i AM WAITING FOR 50%-75% SALE
Hannibal Dec 6, 2019 @ 9:40am 
Good luck. Itll be a long wait. I'll play now I've money to burn.
Frank ツ Dec 6, 2019 @ 9:42am 
Originally posted by 󠀡:
FYI: literally no one cares m8
This
P00CH Dec 6, 2019 @ 9:49am 
it's worth the price point. Also, PC gaming isn't superior. The community is better (less toxic) on consoles and consoles have better games. What PC got? RTS? MMO's? Not even PC exclusives use the full power of PC's.
RasaNova Dec 6, 2019 @ 9:55am 
Originally posted by PR_GOD:
it's worth the price point. Also, PC gaming isn't superior. The community is better (less toxic) on consoles and consoles have better games. What PC got? RTS? MMO's? Not even PC exclusives use the full power of PC's.
Umm... Name a genre. PC got it.
Serious Secare Dec 6, 2019 @ 9:55am 
My dog took a dump on our walk this morning and a little piece got stuck to her butt
RasaNova Dec 6, 2019 @ 10:04am 
To OP - Nobody betrayed you. List price for the PC version is exactly the same as list price for consoles. It's a popular game, still selling well so it's still full price. Just like civ 6 (2016) black ops 3 (2015) or any other full price AAA game that's been out for years.

It's 100% up to you if you don't want to pay that price. By all means wait a couple years and get it cheaper if you don't think you'll get $60 worth of enjoyment out of it. But you're not a victim just because AAA game publishers want profits.
Joker Dec 6, 2019 @ 10:18am 
Originally posted by WarMask:
I'm sorry. But I'm a pure PC player. And I feel betrayed.
They made RDR1 on console only. Then RDR2 on console for years before releasing to PC. I'm not buying it at full price.

I've set the value for this game at 15$ or less.

And cherry on top, they made special and ultimate versions... I mean, shameless. Unequality in gaming.

So, I would like to start a group of Punishers to get back at developpers who act like that. They want money? Okay. We will deny them our money.

Is anyone feeling the same? If not, explain it. I'm really interested.

FYI: I did the same for GTA5. Waited a lot before buying the game. And I'm still unhappy about many aspects of the game that suffer from the console design.

I think that console gaming is inferior to PC gaming. Due to the limitations of the gaming platform, the controlers, the player communtiy etc... And I believe that game designed for console then ported to PC are awful. GTA5 is a good example of this.

Anyway... Who is with me?
Congrats... it's nobody by the way... nobody is with you. I don't mean 0 I guess... but only a tiny few, and nobody else gives a ♥♥♥♥. Look at the sales numbers and tell me how effective your boycott will be.....
['w'] Dec 6, 2019 @ 10:27am 
some days ago you got the game on PS4 for 20 Euros at a*****. Now it's back to 39.something again.

No idea if I will buy this one, for ~25 Euros perhaps.
WarMask Dec 6, 2019 @ 12:18pm 
@Joker:
You don't get it, man. Apple is a great smartphone maker because millions of silly people buy their products.
There was a time when you couldn't introduce a writer and say "he is a great writer because he sold millions of copies of his book." That would have been an insult.
I can make a cat video and have millions of views, maybe billions. Would you introduce me then as a filmaker next to great directors? Of course not.
Numbers are just numbers. If all the idiots in the world buy a copy of a terrible game, will it turn into a great game?
They have a good marketing potential.

@Rasanova:
It's a betrayal for me. Because they left PC to focus on the easy money on console.

@PR_GOD:
You can't use the full potential of a PC. They are not standard. Even if you make a game that uses the full potential of the super computer used by the Chinese government to hack military targets, they will be like "damn, we need more power..." and they will plug another CPU or GPU and add to it's calculation power.
It's just pointless. My computer can't make ARMA III work with maxed out settings. Or GTA5 or Crysis... And Crysis is pretty old now. I was still a student when I played it.

@Spawk:
All console games were developed on computers. Do you think they can code games using a playstation controler?
So yeah, you can use an emulator. But do you want that? Play with a controler like a peasant?

@Captain Kaivarian:
YES! Wait for sales my man. Don't give them your hard earned money. They made us wait for one year, we can make them wait too.

Pfew... Thank god I knew the world was messed up before reading some of your answers, guys.

But can you please raise the level a little? Insults are expected. But can you at least give explanations? Arguments? This is a forum. A place to exchange ideas.

Okay. Step by step:

PC gaming is superior.
I really don't know where to start to explain this one.

Some may think this is just an opinion, but not really. The opinion would be on the criteria to decide. But on the obvious criteria, we should all agree that PC is superior.

From a developper perspective. Console is superior. You have a standard issue platform. All Playstations 4 are the same. On PC, some have windows 7, others are on Linux, others are on windows 10... Different versions of each OS too. One is missing some softwares, one is using a different firewall, different antivirus, different version of DirectX... Oh, it's a mess. Some people use AZERTY keyboards... Some have Nvidia cards, others got ATI-AMD cards, different CPUs... Oh it's a lot.
Developping on PC requires some elegance. You have to keep it simple so it works for everybody.
On Console, they all have same software, same hardware, same controlers. But you have to keep the games simple. The platform is limited. But there is millions and millions of players you can reach. And they HAVE TO BUY YOUR GAME.

On PC, there is piracy. Players can play you game. And not pay you a penny. And you need to be supported by the community to sell them copies. Or find a good reason to force them to pay.

But let's stick to an obvious example: On PC we don't need aim assist. We are accurate enough with a mouse and keyboard. So all the aim assist mechanics on PC games are just leftovers of the console culture.
In HALO, a supposed awesome console FPS, you engage targets at about 5-30m most of the time because console players can't hit anything beyond this distance without aim assist and a sniper scope. Same for Battlefield, Call of Duty etc... It's very quick, very close quarter battles. No time to think. Very console mindset.
Just close your eyes. Imagines the crosshair on HALO. Do you see the big circle in your screen? Ridiculous.

On PC, a shooter would be a realistic game like SQUAD. And then, it's like reality, you shoot at point targets when they are close, at areas when you are not sure where the enemy is, you spray and pray in the bushes etc...

On PC, aim assist is usually a cheat. And we call it aimbot and we kick and ban players for using it.

PC is a complex platform. Many different games. Strategy games like Starcraft. If Starcraft was on console, well it would have been a pretty dumb game. Do you see the Korean gamers play Starcraft with a playstation controler? How many orders a second can they give with that?

I could write a 5615pages rant on how consoles are awful. Let's just say that they are two different cultures. And I don't like it.

Cybermade Dec 6, 2019 @ 12:19pm 
Originally posted by ~☆ Jim ☆~:
Good luck. Itll be a long wait. I'll play now I've money to burn.
Same dude
lefty1117 Dec 6, 2019 @ 12:32pm 
my guess, OP was dropped on his head as a baby
GosuDRM Dec 6, 2019 @ 12:33pm 
What a pleb
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