Will there be a limited demo like other mmos?

[Ryulightorb]

Didn't get into the Beta and want to see how playing it feels to me before i spend nearly $80 on it.

[Shintai]

No, you have the default steam 2 hour refund policy.

[Ryulightorb]

Originally posted by Shintai:

No, you have the default steam 2 hour refund policy.

ah so the refund policy will work with it? ok nice that's good atleast hopefully i can see a decent amount of gameplay in those 2 hours before i make up my mind :)

[Shintai]

Refund policy works with all games, no exceptions.

[Ryulightorb]

Originally posted by Shintai:

Refund policy works with all games, no exceptions.

I swear there were some mmo's they didn't work with in the past years ago but that's good to hear.

[joridiculous]

Originally posted by Ryulightorb:

Originally posted by Shintai:

Refund policy works with all games, no exceptions.

I swear there were some mmo's they didn't work with in the past years ago but that's good to hear.

Nope. All games incl. early Access and of cpiurse pre-order can be refunded anytime before launch (this might have changed read the policy).
But also 2 hour too test a MMO is far from enough. Most don't really open up until several hours in.

[Blue]

Originally posted by Shintai:

Refund policy works with all games, no exceptions.

Incorrect. There are Games that even have the warning on the Storepage where it literally says that "This product is not eligible for refund."

If a Game is not refundable then this warning is near the Button "add to cart".

[joridiculous]

Originally posted by Blue:

Originally posted by Shintai:

Refund policy works with all games, no exceptions.

Incorrect. There are Games that even have the warning on the Storepage where it literally says that "This product is not eligible for refund."

If a Game is not refundable then this warning is near the Button "add to cart".

Only certain DLC's and in-game purchases might be exempt from refund.
and this:
PURCHASES MADE OUTSIDE OF STEAM
Valve cannot provide refunds for purchases made outside of Steam (for example, CD keys or Steam wallet cards purchased from third parties).

VAC BANS
If you have been banned by VAC (the Valve Anti-Cheat system) on a game, you lose the right to refund that game.

VIDEO CONTENT
We are unable to offer refunds for video content on Steam (e.g. movies, shorts, series, episodes, and tutorials), unless the video is in a bundle with other (non-video) refundable content.

REFUNDS ON GIFTS
Unredeemed gifts may be refunded within the standard 14-day/two-hour refund period. Redeemed gifts may be refunded under the same conditions if the gift recipient initiates the refund. Funds used to purchase the gift will be returned to the original purchaser.

[Ryulightorb]

Originally posted by joridiculous:

Originally posted by Ryulightorb:

I swear there were some mmo's they didn't work with in the past years ago but that's good to hear.

Nope. All games incl. early Access and of cpiurse pre-order can be refunded anytime before launch (this might have changed read the policy).
But also 2 hour too test a MMO is far from enough. Most don't really open up until several hours in.

yeah i know that i have played quite a few mmos hopefully it will let me get enough of an idea of the combat and how the latency feels.

[Blue]

Originally posted by joridiculous:

Only certain DLC's and in-game purchases might be exempt from refund.
and this:
PURCHASES MADE OUTSIDE OF STEAM
Valve cannot provide refunds for purchases made outside of Steam (for example, CD keys or Steam wallet cards purchased from third parties).

VAC BANS
If you have been banned by VAC (the Valve Anti-Cheat system) on a game, you lose the right to refund that game.

VIDEO CONTENT
We are unable to offer refunds for video content on Steam (e.g. movies, shorts, series, episodes, and tutorials), unless the video is in a bundle with other (non-video) refundable content.

REFUNDS ON GIFTS
Unredeemed gifts may be refunded within the standard 14-day/two-hour refund period. Redeemed gifts may be refunded under the same conditions if the gift recipient initiates the refund. Funds used to purchase the gift will be returned to the original purchaser.

Again, you have the literal warning "This product is not eligible for refund." right under the "add to cart" button on some Storepages of certain Games.
To give you two examples:
- Star Wars the old Republic (MMO)
- Final Fantasy XIV (MMO)

The reason for this is that those Games have their own Launcher and could be started up without using Steam (thus Steam wouldnt be able to track played time on those). Also that they would have a problem with the purchased Game-Time and other stuff.

Originally posted by Ryulightorb:

yeah i know that i have played quite a few mmos hopefully it will let me get enough of an idea of the combat and how the latency feels.

Have you tried the Demo?
When i open the Storepage of Dune, there on the right side (scrolling down a bit) is a Button to Download a Demo. (havent tried it yet myself, but maybe it lets you test what you want to test)

[joridiculous]

Originally posted by Blue:

Originally posted by joridiculous:

Only certain DLC's and in-game purchases might be exempt from refund.
and this:
PURCHASES MADE OUTSIDE OF STEAM
Valve cannot provide refunds for purchases made outside of Steam (for example, CD keys or Steam wallet cards purchased from third parties).

VAC BANS
If you have been banned by VAC (the Valve Anti-Cheat system) on a game, you lose the right to refund that game.

VIDEO CONTENT
We are unable to offer refunds for video content on Steam (e.g. movies, shorts, series, episodes, and tutorials), unless the video is in a bundle with other (non-video) refundable content.

REFUNDS ON GIFTS
Unredeemed gifts may be refunded within the standard 14-day/two-hour refund period. Redeemed gifts may be refunded under the same conditions if the gift recipient initiates the refund. Funds used to purchase the gift will be returned to the original purchaser.

Again, you have the literal warning "This product is not eligible for refund." right under the "add to cart" button on some Storepages of certain Games.
To give you two examples:
- Star Wars the old Republic (MMO)
- Final Fantasy XIV (MMO)

The reason for this is that those Games have their own Launcher and could be started up without using Steam (thus Steam wouldnt be able to track played time on those). Also that they would have a problem with the purchased Game-Time and other stuff.

and again you cant read.
SWTOR: FREE to play. Of course there is no refund. And as i very clearly wrote above: Only certain DLC's and in-game purchases might be exempt from refund.

And FFXIV is a Subscription service. Squenix is the one responsible for any refunds.
All the DLC's follow normal Steam Refund Policy.

[Blue]

Originally posted by joridiculous:

and again you cant read.
...

I give that right back to you.
Otherwise you would have noticed that i said,.. that if its not refundable it has the warning right next to the "add to cart" button.
But if you want to ignore those literal warnings on certain products in the hope that your copy paste information would hold up, then feel free to try. Valve is not obligated to grant you refunds.

[AFC_HIGHBURY]

Originally posted by Ryulightorb:

Originally posted by Shintai:

Refund policy works with all games, no exceptions.

I swear there were some mmo's they didn't work with in the past years ago but that's good to hear.

This is only the case if the game is f2p has consumables and game currency as mtx.

Having said that valve allowed people to refund poe2 EA but GGG bans the account.

[joridiculous]

Originally posted by Blue:

Originally posted by joridiculous:

and again you cant read.
...

I give that right back to you.
Otherwise you would have noticed that i said,.. that if its not refundable it has the warning right next to the "add to cart" button.
But if you want to ignore those literal warnings on certain products in the hope that your copy paste information would hold up, then feel free to try. Valve is not obligated to grant you refunds.

Read the store pages again you very silly 'person'.
Everything is refundable EXCEPT a Free to play (swtor) and a Subscription game(FFXIV) and the other exception is posted (twice). Pretty difficult to get money back for something you didn't pay for, and Steam do not run subscription services for other companies (duhI). You can still refund those games at the publishers.

[Blue]

Originally posted by joridiculous:

Read the store pages again you very silly 'person'.
Everything is refundable EXCEPT a Free to play (swtor) and a Subscription game(FFXIV) and the other exception is posted (twice). Pretty difficult to get money back for something you didn't pay for, and Steam do not run subscription services for other companies (duhI). You can still refund those games at the publishers.

Originally posted by Shintai:

Refund policy works with all games, no exceptions.

Originally posted by Blue:

...
Incorrect. There are Games that even have the warning on the Storepage where it literally says that "This product is not eligible for refund."

If a Game is not refundable then this warning is near the Button "add to cart".

Enough said here.
The Information i gave was literally because i did read what is written on some store-pages, and it was a response to a claim that statet ".. no exceptions.", what was simply incorrect.
If you still dont get that, then i am not able to help you further and will simply ignore you now.

[Tasolth]

We cannot say if there wont be a limited Demo access available, limited to the south Basin area, no access to the social hubs. No ability to trade, etc. Limited time, plenty of ways to go about it. Who knows what the future will hold.