TTK didn't fix 3rd party - It made it worse

[Consent]

Shorter fights mean no time for 3rd parties to arrive? Haha, think again.

Fights take 1-2 bullets less. Ash players take 20x less time to arrive.

Finished a fight? Ash ult, Ash dash, Ash here, Ash there, and since TTK times are reduced, people are more aggressive than ever.

Before, I felt like I could survive 3rd parties. Now, I can't. It happens faster than you can register it and you're dead by the time you realize there's someone else. It sucks.

TTK changes have contributed nothing to this game except for a way to make Assault classes more appealing. I just played against a Ballistic who was ONE shot, but ulted and had the speed boost from cracking me:

Dude was STRAFING left and right faster than Octane ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ runs without his guns out. It genuinely looks like cheating if I didn't know any better.

Honestly, Apex got ruined this season. I don't even think I said that during the Support meta, but holy ♥♥♥♥, delete Ash from the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game. She is not balanced. Her mobility doesn't belong to this game.

Octane needs to sacrifice HP to get a portion of Ash's mobility
Pathy needs a 30s cooldown for what Ash can do in 2 dashes
Vantage is a joke
Loba's teleport is a little similar, I guess? But Loba can't insta teleport and she gets screwed over from travel time and SHE CAN'T USE IT MID COMBAT
Rev tactical, same thing, no weapon, long cooldown, 2 dash worth distance.

Genuinely, Ash is just killing this season for me.

And believe me, I went Ash too, for 25-30 games at least. SUPER fun. But she makes me want to punch my monitor when I'm trying to play non-meta.

♥♥♥♥ this game right now.

[ijs]

they want fix 3th party, but they are a little lacking in IQ to make the sounds of shooting more local, and not audible to the entire map

[GHSTproject]

There are no third parties anymore. They totaly fixed the issue!
Now it's 12th parties and 16th parties all day long baby! Just ash dash teleport loba bracelet on top of everyones head and die to a team that literally does the same!
If you are lucky you gained a few RP by doing this if not just keep going because ranks have 0 value in this game LMAO.

[Consent]

Originally posted by FURIA GHSTproject:

There are no third parties anymore. They totaly fixed the issue!
Now it's 12th parties and 16th parties all day long baby! Just ash dash teleport loba bracelet on top of everyones head and die to a team that literally does the same!
If you are lucky you gained a few RP by doing this if not just keep going because ranks have 0 value in this game LMAO.

Glass half full, I guess.

But yeah, it feels horrible. Either you're the one who shoots first in all of your gunfights and consequently win the game, or somewhere along the lines someone shoots you first, and you die.

But if in either scenario, anyone survives the initial 5 seconds after the first bullet, enjoy your 3rd party zooming towards you with the ult - double dash from Ash.

[GHSTproject]

Originally posted by Consent:

Originally posted by FURIA GHSTproject:

There are no third parties anymore. They totaly fixed the issue!
Now it's 12th parties and 16th parties all day long baby! Just ash dash teleport loba bracelet on top of everyones head and die to a team that literally does the same!
If you are lucky you gained a few RP by doing this if not just keep going because ranks have 0 value in this game LMAO.

Glass half full, I guess.

But yeah, it feels horrible. Either you're the one who shoots first in all of your gunfights and consequently win the game, or somewhere along the lines someone shoots you first, and you die.

But if in either scenario, anyone survives the initial 5 seconds after the first bullet, enjoy your 3rd party zooming towards you with the ult - double dash from Ash.

Not really. Ranks are literally just = How much time you have spent playing the game.
You can not convince me that I would not be pred in any season with two teammates that have the same amount of playtime.

Just running at everyone might not work every game but unless you are master you literally dont lose any RP at all. I mean diamond lose 65 but a good win with a lot of KP will gain you easily more than 400RP so you can run at people 6 times and die everytime as long as you gain and win game 7 you made plus

[computerboyz]

skill issue

[bitzN]

It's true.
Did two games and won.
17 and 13 kills with the team (equally spread) and both times below 1000 dmg
I laughed so hard.

[Gwyn, Lord of Cinder]

nobody said the TTK change was supposed to fix third parties

[Consent]

Originally posted by Gwyn, Lord of Cinder:

nobody said the TTK change was supposed to fix third parties

"Battle Royales are all about strategy and timing. These are the mechanisms to success, but strategy goes right out the window if encounters are taking too long to resolve and you're dealing with your 3rd, 4th, or even 5th party. This latest suite of changes is designed to keep you in the drivers seat by providing the tools to resolve conflicts faster, getting you back to if the 3rd party is coming and not when."

From the Apex Legends S24 patch notes

[Olijfboom]

aim assist is cheating

[ุ]

reall...

[Showguyver]

yep ttk made the third party and the entire game worst

[LongJoy]

Originally posted by Consent:

Originally posted by Gwyn, Lord of Cinder:

nobody said the TTK change was supposed to fix third parties

"Battle Royales are all about strategy and timing. These are the mechanisms to success, but strategy goes right out the window if encounters are taking too long to resolve and you're dealing with your 3rd, 4th, or even 5th party. This latest suite of changes is designed to keep you in the drivers seat by providing the tools to resolve conflicts faster, getting you back to if the 3rd party is coming and not when."

From the Apex Legends S24 patch notes

That part about strategy & timing has always been utterly crap in the minds of most players but this season with Ash & Ballistic even more. I always play with a defensive mind...that's why most teammates hate me because I refuse playing brainddead...with this new meta I try to have a lot of ring awareness & look at my positioning...Always the only 1 in my team.

[Knee]

There will never not be third partying in a battle royale.

[Korvox]

I feel the same.
Right now, after playing a lot this season I have this feeling

-More 3º partys (and you can add the 4º or 5º between with snipers

-The cool part of the Apex was movement for reposition, skills of the characters and team composition, shieldswap.
Now the half is gone because
The shieldswap your new shield is gone when you leave the box (if you have time to reach it)
The movement you are lucky if you have time for do a walljump
And skills most of them are useless because need a little of time for be worth, like caustic traps or wraith Q.

-I really don't like this new way of EA to do metas. Only supports in the last season, Only Assaults.... I only see the sames champions all the time. Ash, Ballistic, Loba, Lifeline.

-The new TTK is not good for the servers
I get kill behind the wall
I kill when my enemy is already behind the wall
Some bullets doesn't hit you and you get dmged (you can feel this more if you have extreme movement, like playing ash
Sometimes the game doesn't register the shoots (More than one time I shoot in the chest with a wingman to someone and do 0 dmg)

-And of course is fun Ash, and the new TTK is cool to delete 2 guys super fast. BUT I don't really feel it like Apex. You put me a medal flashbang in the middle of the screen and is CoD already

[APEXO LIGONIS]

I think it's balanced actually