Smurfs ruin the game.

[Undead Bastard]

I don't care how good you are, doing it is so petty and you're ruining the fun for others. Play with people at your own skill and get better maybe? Imagine buying Apex for the first time and wanting to play and you keep getting killed by sweaty smurfs.

[Bogdan (idk man)]

true

[lolschrauber]

People need to win to feel better about themselves. That's how they cope with being unsuccessful in other parts of life. It's the video game equivalent of an 18 year old beating up children in kindergarten just to tell someone he beat up 12 guys at once.

[lolschrauber]

Originally posted by Dr. Dro:

Unfortunately smurfs are a reality in every multiplayer game, it just gets worse in a competitive scenario. Game needs matchmaking and ranked ladder improvements, it's bloody insane that after splits they place level 500 accounts with characters that have multiple thousand kills and tens of millions in damage dealt in Bronze II

True, but some games are worse than others. Free ones are naturally the worst. Actually, this is a problem with ranked modes. I remember many years ago when ranked modes weren't a thing or they just existed as mods on servers but without actual ranked matchmaking.

Some people still got destroyed but they didn't care as much because they weren't targeted by someone abusing the system to specifically prey on the lower skill people. At this point, I think smurfing is the same as griefing and almost bullying. You prey on weaker people than you to ruin their day, there's no big difference.

But nobody really cares about the issue so it will never go away.

[reevo]

Originally posted by Dr. Dro:

Unfortunately smurfs are a reality in every multiplayer game, it just gets worse in a competitive scenario. Game needs matchmaking and ranked ladder improvements, it's bloody insane that after splits they place level 500 accounts with characters that have multiple thousand kills and tens of millions in damage dealt in Bronze II... i'm fully ready to get whooped by these guys once I reach Platinum and Diamond ranks, but as it stands, i'm basically beached on Gold IV because of these enemies and dumb teammates that don't know how to play!

Usually after one week the split gets balanced and the top 1% gets back to pred/master so don't blame them for your poor decissions ingame. I find hard to belive that you can't get some decent teams in gold tbh. Right now ranked is stable with the best players at top. Maybe you should improve yourself before criticizing others.

[lolschrauber]

Originally posted by reevo:

Originally posted by Dr. Dro:

Unfortunately smurfs are a reality in every multiplayer game, it just gets worse in a competitive scenario. Game needs matchmaking and ranked ladder improvements, it's bloody insane that after splits they place level 500 accounts with characters that have multiple thousand kills and tens of millions in damage dealt in Bronze II... i'm fully ready to get whooped by these guys once I reach Platinum and Diamond ranks, but as it stands, i'm basically beached on Gold IV because of these enemies and dumb teammates that don't know how to play!

Usually after one week the split gets balanced and the top 1% gets back to pred/master so don't blame them for your poor decissions ingame. I find hard to belive that you can't get some decent teams in gold tbh. Right now ranked is stable with the best players at top. Maybe you should improve yourself before criticizing others.

Nah, gold is still full of a lot of really terrible people.

I don't play too much ranked without my friends, but solo queueing to plat is easy, and it's not hard to get more kills and damage than both your gold mates combined honestly, it happens quite a bit.

[Mr.Fluffins]

Originally posted by reevo:

Usually after one week the split gets balanced

No, it doesn't, because current ranked system is disfunctional. I meet people with 1k+ kills with bronze 4- bronze 2 on a regular basis, because climbing the ranks is the same for everyone, no matter what level you achieved last time, which is beyond stupid.
Starcraft 2, also a free game, has a much better rank system, where even during a season re-set you get back more or less close to your real rank after a couple of placement matches. In apex, rank is a joke, it basically relates more with how much you play rank vs how good you are. So someone can mostly play unranked, get a lot of experience, then jump to ranked to stomp some real bronze\silver people.

[lolschrauber]

Originally posted by Mr.Fluffins:

Originally posted by reevo:

Usually after one week the split gets balanced

No, it doesn't, because current ranked system is disfunctional. I meet people with 1k+ kills with bronze 4- bronze 2 on a regular basis, because climbing the ranks is the same for everyone, no matter what level you achieved last time, which is beyond stupid.
Starcraft 2, also a free game, has a much better rank system, where even during a season re-set you get back more or less close to your real rank after a couple of placement matches. In apex, rank is a joke, it basically relates more with how much you play rank vs how good you are. So someone can mostly play unranked, get a lot of experience, then jump to ranked to stomp some real bronze\silver people.

Sometimes I think They should just stop resetting completely and make people be able to rank down. Smurfing is a problem anyway, but randoms would propably start throwing a lot more, so ranked solos wouldn't be sufficient anymore.

[KNDY | No Toxicity!]

Matchmaking is probably the problem if anything. You can say smurf is ruining the game. I can say getting new player is ruining my game.

[lolschrauber]

Originally posted by KNDY:

Matchmaking is probably the problem if anything. You can say smurf is ruining the game. I can say getting new player is ruining my game.

That's a new one. How do new players ruin it? If you "get" new players in ranked match making, you're just bottom tier.

[lolschrauber]

Originally posted by KNDY:

Originally posted by lolschrauber:

That's a new one. How do new players ruin it? If you "get" new players in ranked match making, you're just bottom tier.

Originally posted by Dr. Dro:

Yup, if he's so good, after all, why is he in Bronze/Silver tiers? Scrub.

Wow. You guys so good eh. I have 5 KD and in diamond. Go ♥♥♥♥ off can ya.

Then elaborate you jackass? Jesus Christ.

[KNDY | No Toxicity!]

Dafuq, you guys want to start bashing someone for "being bad" because I gave my experience but then start cowering behind " oh you did that first " " oh you should've elaborated ".

How bout a simple " what do you mean " ? But noooo, " you're just bottom tier " . " Scrub " .

[aLystaR]

Originally posted by KNDY:

Says the bottom tier.. good lord you people sometimes..

Give an honest opinion and you peeps like to bash others.

Y'know what, just for you two. How bout you get up higher rank first since that's your argument right?

Oh wait, you play " tactically " and get a fat 150rp? Sounds like you just ratted your way up the ranks rather than having actual engagement because you need to hide to compensate for your inability to shoot at any target. Boo hoo hoo

Scrub.

stfu no lifer

[Little Fraggie]

are you talking about some other people or that blue, small, creature that lives in a mushroom shaped house? cause if they are cheating just call them cheater

[KNDY | No Toxicity!]

Originally posted by Dr. Dro:

Originally posted by KNDY:

Dafuq, you guys want to start bashing someone for "being bad" because I gave my experience but then start cowering behind " oh you did that first " " oh you should've elaborated ".

How bout a simple " what do you mean " ? But noooo, " you're just bottom tier " . " Scrub " .

Nobody's bashing you, you just came here acting entitled, claiming to be better than us all and we weren't impressed... then you released the F word and got memed, lmao :lunar2019coolpig:

's all good bud, no hard feelings

Sorry if that came off as " being better than you all " thing. I just said a very simple thing.

Instead of having problems of people smurfing, I get problem where the matchmacking keeps putting me with new players. Rank is another whole bag of worms.

Here's a recap yea,

Originally posted by KNDY:

Matchmaking is probably the problem if anything. You can say smurf is ruining the game. I can say getting new player is ruining my game.

I mean at this point I'd rather have smurfs than literal new players in the team because they tell you how SBMM works and bla bla bla. Here I don't see it working as they explained it.


Back to the argument earlier,
When people just love going around claiming that they're better or assuming others being trash is why I would go put my KD and rank out there. It's so I can back my claim. Saying " ♥♥♥♥ off " is just to say stop bothering me about it.

Mind you, I don't even think diamond is a good rank at all. There are way more people that play better in plat or gold.

With how the RP system works, given enough time, even a weak player can get into diamond, but not with actual skill to back that rank. You'd be surprised how many masters I've met that cannot even hold their own weight.

[lolschrauber]

Originally posted by KNDY:

Dafuq, you guys want to start bashing someone for "being bad" because I gave my experience but then start cowering behind " oh you did that first " " oh you should've elaborated ".

How bout a simple " what do you mean " ? But noooo, " you're just bottom tier " . " Scrub " .

I said if you get new people in ranked match making, you are bottom tier. That's a fact, not bashing. I didn't insult anyone.

Now maybe you have a different definition of what a new player is, but it's a fact that new people start at the bottom. This isn't like other games were you have placements that place you somewhere other than bottom