aim bot assist

[Katanga]

itztimmy last week said how controller is op, imperialhal always says that, mande, sweet, genburten, literaly best players in apex history, BUT according to 500 hours bots with rollers (IQ= pessi fan), rollers are 'not' overpowered... you are a such clowns :D when people who literaly pay bills by playing apex says rollers should be nerfed, it should be true :D how about that roller players? what st_pid argument will you say about this?

[Flag280]

yes

[bitzN]

Hal is a vjay mums boy, his opinion is irrelevant.

[Helen Keller]

Aim assist should be in the game but not the way it is. Aim assist has always been slowing down the crosshair when you move over an enemy, it's been like this since early COD days. Apex has a new system where the aim will automatically move if the target strafes left or right. This is too broken. The reaction time of a human being will never beat the computer program's reaction time. Aim assist will also never be removed because the majority of Apex players are all using controllers now. EA has to cater to the majority to make money.

[Wirewing]

Might as well just be a tab target mmo at this point

[redsharpie]

Yeah I recently watched a video of itztimmy saying controller players dominate apex and mnk is just keeping up. Weening controller players to a reduced strength of AA could be a solution. Lowering it by small amounts over time to a more reasonable value.

[76561199390754410]

IF CONTROLLER IS EASY ,WHY DONT USE IT?

1-no,control controller on AIM is very hard need 1 year practice , for aim you have 0.5cm joystick
2-good players like Verhulst use high sens and it disable aim assist ,,,aim assist is for new player

[StuffedPlatypusLuvsOrigamiRabbit]

Okay?

[Mike]

Originally posted by Ramin:

IF CONTROLLER IS EASY ,WHY DONT USE IT?

1-no,control controller on AIM is very hard need 1 year practice , for aim you have 0.5cm joystick
2-good players like Verhulst use high sens and it disable aim assist ,,,aim assist is for new player

Because the feeling of aiming with a controller is garbage compared to MnK

[Helen Keller]

Originally posted by Ramin:

IF CONTROLLER IS EASY ,WHY DONT USE IT?

1-no,control controller on AIM is very hard need 1 year practice , for aim you have 0.5cm joystick
2-good players like Verhulst use high sens and it disable aim assist ,,,aim assist is for new player

I'm going to break down your 2 points and add my personal experience.

1- Controller aim is much harder to control compared to M&K. It does take time to learn controller recoils and such. However you failed to take into account that a lot of Apex players didn't start with Apex. They've played controller games for years. They know how to control recoils and they take that knowledge and move it to Apex. The fact that most players didn't start with Apex invalidates your point because they don't need that strong of an AA. I support Aim Assist, I think it should be in the game because it is harder to hit shots on controller but the Apex aim assist is giving unfair advantages.

2- Full respect give to Apex controller players that don't use AA. It's difficult to learn how to do that and it takes time and effort. However, saying that all good players don't use AA is just a blatant lie. Just because Verhulst doesn't use it doesn't mean other people won't use it. So your point doesn't really make any sense to me. I GUARANTEE you that the majority of players on controller don't turn off AA.

I will also like to add that I just started playing on controller today (that's the reason I found this discussion) and I'd like to share my thoughts. I have never played a single competitive multiplayer game on controller in my life, I do play all my story games on controller though. I have played Apex on M&k since launch. On my first day playing controller I can confidently say that my aim at long ranges is abysmal and I can't hit a single shot. However, in close range fights I shred. The aim assist is definitely there and it's very strong if a brand new controller player can hop in and shred people.

Apex has always done a bad job of balancing things right and removing broken features. Tap strafing was the perfect counter to AA because you'd turn fast enough that the AA doesn't lock on. The problem is that tap strafing made M&K way too OP. I 100% agree with the removal of tap strafing even though I loved the swift movement it brought. I do believe AA will be nerfed even farther it'll just take time. It took years to remove tap strafing even though it was clearly broken. Apex is clearly more interested in pumping out skins and heirlooms rather than fixing the game.

There are plenty of controller players that know AA is broken. There are plenty of pros that had to switch to controller just to keep up with the game and not lose their jobs. If people are being forced to switch to controller because it's just that much better, then there's an issue with it.

[Fiago]

Originally posted by Helen Keller:

Originally posted by Ramin:

IF CONTROLLER IS EASY ,WHY DONT USE IT?

1-no,control controller on AIM is very hard need 1 year practice , for aim you have 0.5cm joystick
2-good players like Verhulst use high sens and it disable aim assist ,,,aim assist is for new player

I'm going to break down your 2 points and add my personal experience.

1- Controller aim is much harder to control compared to M&K. It does take time to learn controller recoils and such. However you failed to take into account that a lot of Apex players didn't start with Apex. They've played controller games for years. They know how to control recoils and they take that knowledge and move it to Apex. The fact that most players didn't start with Apex invalidates your point because they don't need that strong of an AA. I support Aim Assist, I think it should be in the game because it is harder to hit shots on controller but the Apex aim assist is giving unfair advantages.

2- Full respect give to Apex controller players that don't use AA. It's difficult to learn how to do that and it takes time and effort. However, saying that all good players don't use AA is just a blatant lie. Just because Verhulst doesn't use it doesn't mean other people won't use it. So your point doesn't really make any sense to me. I GUARANTEE you that the majority of players on controller don't turn off AA.

I will also like to add that I just started playing on controller today (that's the reason I found this discussion) and I'd like to share my thoughts. I have never played a single competitive multiplayer game on controller in my life, I do play all my story games on controller though. I have played Apex on M&k since launch. On my first day playing controller I can confidently say that my aim at long ranges is abysmal and I can't hit a single shot. However, in close range fights I shred. The aim assist is definitely there and it's very strong if a brand new controller player can hop in and shred people.

Apex has always done a bad job of balancing things right and removing broken features. Tap strafing was the perfect counter to AA because you'd turn fast enough that the AA doesn't lock on. The problem is that tap strafing made M&K way too OP. I 100% agree with the removal of tap strafing even though I loved the swift movement it brought. I do believe AA will be nerfed even farther it'll just take time. It took years to remove tap strafing even though it was clearly broken. Apex is clearly more interested in pumping out skins and heirlooms rather than fixing the game.

There are plenty of controller players that know AA is broken. There are plenty of pros that had to switch to controller just to keep up with the game and not lose their jobs. If people are being forced to switch to controller because it's just that much better, then there's an issue with it.

its not like m&k does not take a lot of time to perfect.....i mean i takes years to get good aim and thousands of hours to beam anyone with any kind of consistency

aim assist simply put should not be in the game, that is on pc lobbies

one side has a computer program, that works without a flaw and the other side is human and gets punished for choosing the wrong input

you barly see roller players turning off AA....i mean why would they

[Mewthug]

jsut controlleur palyer get cancer ty

[Katanga]

Originally posted by Mewthug:

jsut controlleur palyer get cancer ty

grow up

[Katanga]

Originally posted by Ramin:

IF CONTROLLER IS EASY ,WHY DONT USE IT?

1-no,control controller on AIM is very hard need 1 year practice , for aim you have 0.5cm joystick
2-good players like Verhulst use high sens and it disable aim assist ,,,aim assist is for new player

because i dont want to be pathetic loser which is abusing game? :D

[EVONiEE 疾風迅雷悪魔]

had so much fun playing XDEFIANT with input based mm and no sbmm, finally a fair game for mnk gamer.

[PHiX]

Originally posted by Ramin:

IF CONTROLLER IS EASY ,WHY DONT USE IT?

1-no,control controller on AIM is very hard need 1 year practice , for aim you have 0.5cm joystick
2-good players like Verhulst use high sens and it disable aim assist ,,,aim assist is for new player

Verhulst plays 4-3 Linear, what are you on about? xD