Nerf Rotational Aim Assist

[Valyus]

For real, this is starting to become a cancer to the multiplayer space. I understand the need for aim assist but how much it's been tuned lately is way too much. They do it to make sure Joe after working a 60 hour week that he'll get some really cheap kills so he can feel good about himself, but the issue is the way that aim assist works in close quarters is essentially like the game playing itself. The amount of skill that aim assist just provides you is insane when it comes to "tracking" people in a heavy movement based game.

Here is proof and for further discussion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTsQGi4-FuE

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/s8d0bp/comprehensive_breakdown_of_aim_assist_how_it/

[Syntheticat24]

as a console player in the firing range I agree in apex its way way to broken

[Deraxim]

and here i am still dying with a controller without getting a single kill.. weird

[Valyus]

Publicado originalmente por Deraxim:

and here i am still dying with a controller without getting a single kill.. weird

PC or console? Also, doubtful, this sounds like an exaggeration. 40% (.4 AA) on PC w/ pad - 60% (.6 AA) on console.

[Deraxim]

Publicado originalmente por Valyus:

Publicado originalmente por Deraxim:

and here i am still dying with a controller without getting a single kill.. weird

PC or console? Also, doubtful, this sounds like an exaggeration. 40% (.4 AA) on PC w/ pad - 60% (.6 AA) on console.

Pc, doubtful or no, i cant do a single kill my aim is all over the place

[Deraxim]

Publicado originalmente por Animals:

Game full of Cheater

u suck /shrug

[Syntheticat24]

Publicado originalmente por Deraxim:

Publicado originalmente por Animals:

Game full of Cheater

u suck /shrug

One your using u instead of you signaling your likely a child. Two he isn't wrong Ive seen so much blatant aim snapping on pc no recoil etc. its not a skill issue also supprised a child didn't just say skill issue honestly so good job on not being that obnoxious.

[Deraxim]

Publicado originalmente por Spydercat:

Publicado originalmente por Deraxim:

u suck /shrug

One your using u instead of you signaling your likely a child. Two he isn't wrong Ive seen so much blatant aim snapping on pc no recoil etc. its not a skill issue also supprised a child didn't just say skill issue honestly so good job on not being that obnoxious.

if 20 yo means in a child, sure thing buddy

[natural disaster]

you know the prefrontal cortex doesn't finish developing until around the age of 25? executive function, stuff like that.

[Katgoop]

Doesn't matter lmao, people will continuously blindly defend Aim Assist, saying that hitting 29/30 shots is normally in mid fights, and that its all skill and not their controller AA helping. Not to mention the game would rather cater to no skill, and casual players, which is 50% or more, rather than look towards skill, movement, etc. Games going onto a downhill spiral but atleast if you play casually and for fun with mates, which is what I'm doing now, it can be 'fun'.

[Jim the Gardener]

I just assume anyone using the crouch juke hip fire method is a controller warrior with absolutely no real playing skill without assist. Had a dude 2 games ago talking about how he literally cannot play without a controller or else his kd tanks.

Looking at you every single Wraith, Octane, Pathfinder

[Asrah]

Publicado originalmente por Spydercat:

Publicado originalmente por Deraxim:

u suck /shrug

One your using u instead of you signaling your likely a child. Two he isn't wrong Ive seen so much blatant aim snapping on pc no recoil etc. its not a skill issue also supprised a child didn't just say skill issue honestly so good job on not being that obnoxious.

U wrong.

/32 and run his own small business

[Asrah]

Publicado originalmente por Katgoop:

Doesn't matter lmao, people will continuously blindly defend Aim Assist, saying that hitting 29/30 shots is normally in mid fights, and that its all skill and not their controller AA helping. Not to mention the game would rather cater to no skill, and casual players, which is 50% or more, rather than look towards skill, movement, etc. Games going onto a downhill spiral but atleast if you play casually and for fun with mates, which is what I'm doing now, it can be 'fun'.

As a PC/MNK player who has average/slightly above average aim/tracking on average, I have yet to see a person marked with a controller that doesnt piss beam me with every full auto weapon.

Combine this with my 25MS average latency to server ... People eat an average of 3/4 of my 60-65% accurate shooting, with 0 damage taken. So its hard to get any downs/kills as I have to hit 3-4 times the amount of shots.

[Katgoop]

Publicado originalmente por Asrah:

Publicado originalmente por Katgoop:

Doesn't matter lmao, people will continuously blindly defend Aim Assist, saying that hitting 29/30 shots is normally in mid fights, and that its all skill and not their controller AA helping. Not to mention the game would rather cater to no skill, and casual players, which is 50% or more, rather than look towards skill, movement, etc. Games going onto a downhill spiral but atleast if you play casually and for fun with mates, which is what I'm doing now, it can be 'fun'.

As a PC/MNK player who has average/slightly above average aim/tracking on average, I have yet to see a person marked with a controller that doesnt piss beam me with every full auto weapon.

Combine this with my 25MS average latency to server ... People eat an average of 3/4 of my 60-65% accurate shooting, with 0 damage taken. So its hard to get any downs/kills as I have to hit 3-4 times the amount of shots.

True asf, my god, watching my health DEPLETE from being beamed. I'm not the best, but I do average a 3 K/D, Diamond player, and I'd say thats DECENT, or I suppose I'm a 'sweat' depending on peoples eyes. I HATE controllers AA.

[Asrah]

Publicado originalmente por Katgoop:

Publicado originalmente por Asrah:

As a PC/MNK player who has average/slightly above average aim/tracking on average, I have yet to see a person marked with a controller that doesnt piss beam me with every full auto weapon.

Combine this with my 25MS average latency to server ... People eat an average of 3/4 of my 60-65% accurate shooting, with 0 damage taken. So its hard to get any downs/kills as I have to hit 3-4 times the amount of shots.

True asf, my god, watching my health DEPLETE from being beamed. I'm not the best, but I do average a 3 K/D, Diamond player, and I'd say thats DECENT, or I suppose I'm a 'sweat' depending on peoples eyes. I HATE controllers AA.

I am .07KD trying to down people in a game where mags are designed to give you very little leeway on misses/body shots without an extended mag.
Even then having to hit 3-4 times the shots against a whole ass squad after mine apes in and dies.

Id be maybe .8-1.2 at best. 85-90% of my deaths have been against enemies that eat bullets for breakfast and take a whopping 75 damage from a whole ass mag to the chest/face

And there's also that 1 round per second energy rifle that does 57 on crit (probably reduced by helmet but how tf do you down anyone who can aim, with that?)

Its also very difficult to punch down an entire squad or three, when my jump leader puts us in an area where a squad or five have already picked up a weapon or two.
I swear, the majority of my games with randoms end up with me surrounded with no weapon in the first 10 seconds.
Might sound like embellishment, but its not. I should honestly start a YT channel just for that stuff.

[Katgoop]

Publicado originalmente por Asrah:

Publicado originalmente por Katgoop:

True asf, my god, watching my health DEPLETE from being beamed. I'm not the best, but I do average a 3 K/D, Diamond player, and I'd say thats DECENT, or I suppose I'm a 'sweat' depending on peoples eyes. I HATE controllers AA.

I am .07KD trying to down people in a game where mags are designed to give you very little leeway on misses/body shots without an extended mag.
Even then having to hit 3-4 times the shots against a whole ass squad after mine apes in and dies.

Id be maybe .8-1.2 at best. 85-90% of my deaths have been against enemies that eat bullets for breakfast and take a whopping 75 damage from a whole ass mag to the chest/face

And there's also that 1 round per second energy rifle that does 57 on crit (probably reduced by helmet but how tf do you down anyone who can aim, with that?)

Its also very difficult to punch down an entire squad or three, when my jump leader puts us in an area where a squad or five have already picked up a weapon or two.
I swear, the majority of my games with randoms end up with me surrounded with no weapon in the first 10 seconds.
Might sound like embellishment, but its not. I should honestly start a YT channel just for that stuff.

Randoms definitely dampen the experience, HEAVILY actually. Especially in Ranked. I see somany people complaining about randoms and wish I could be teamed with them, but sadly I get the actual BOT randoms that rush, complain about the team, then leave. It's insane. Game's going in a downward spiral, both players and developers.