Nerf Rotational Aim Assist

[Valyus]

For real, this is starting to become a cancer to the multiplayer space. I understand the need for aim assist but how much it's been tuned lately is way too much. They do it to make sure Joe after working a 60 hour week that he'll get some really cheap kills so he can feel good about himself, but the issue is the way that aim assist works in close quarters is essentially like the game playing itself. The amount of skill that aim assist just provides you is insane when it comes to "tracking" people in a heavy movement based game.

Here is proof and for further discussion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTsQGi4-FuE

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/s8d0bp/comprehensive_breakdown_of_aim_assist_how_it/

[Asrah]

Originally posted by Katgoop:

Randoms definitely dampen the experience, HEAVILY actually. Especially in Ranked. I see somany people complaining about randoms and wish I could be teamed with them, but sadly I get the actual BOT randoms that rush, complain about the team, then leave. It's insane. Game's going in a downward spiral, both players and developers.

I mean, sometimes Im one of those randoms. My positioning is usually meh and I play it like a TDM cause Im not used to BR's
So I am definitely to blame for the faults that I do have. But this whole thing with randoms hot dropping, then getting steamrolled by 1-3 squads, while doing literally 0 damage and offering literally nothing to the match ... That leaves me with the choice to run or leave. I always choose leave. I dont think I can 1v3 people with brain cells.

The opposing squads DO come at my squad from different angles. They DO position in ways that they can tap strafe in and out of cover. They DO tend to use teamwork, but sometimes they also have players that get merked the few times my randoms even get a chance to fire a shot.

Oh yeah, and the other issue that pops up now and then. Enemies not rendering until long after they are in range to hit me.
I have a 5600X/3080 TI FE/32GB CL16 3600 DDR4/1TB Sata SSD.
Constant 144FPS on full ultra. But the engine doesnt see fit to render the enemies that are literally making me lose? What even is this game?

[Asrah]

After fully watching that video, I now completely understand why people literally piss beam me and my teammates, with automatic weapons, from ranges that I have to pulse fire or even semi auto to get any reasonable DPS.

That needs to be removed entirely. Aim assist that tracks movement is a no no. Aim assist that helps "magnetize" some bullets that close but slightly off target are fine. You do most of that work yourself.

That is, quite literally, aimbot when its active.

[R-S!N]

Think about it: A player doesn't even need to SEE an opponent directly and the aim will snap right on them!! lame af.

PATHETIC cheaters with 5x damage hack, wall hacks, auto-aim hack, etc.., & that PATHETIC in-game aim-assist is BROKEN AF.

also Sh!TTY servers with no-hit-reg....

JUNK a$ Fu<K tainted toxic game will DIE if ea/devs don't fix it soon.... pfft so be it.

[Asrah]

Originally posted by R-S!N:

Think about it: A player doesn't even need to SEE an opponent directly and the aim will snap right on them!! lame af.

PATHETIC cheaters with 5x damage hack, wall hacks, auto-aim hack, etc.., & that PATHETIC in-game aim-assist is BROKEN AF.

also Sh!TTY servers with no-hit-reg....

JUNK a$ Fu<K tainted toxic game will DIE if ea/devs don't fix it soon.... pfft so be it.

I dont think they CAN. My 3080TI/5600X PC that runs the game at constant 144FPS at 3440X1440 full ultra, doesnt render enemy models out as far as they can snipe me.
I can be oneshot with aim assist at ranges I cant even see or hit my enemy at. I regularly fire a couple Sniper rounds (usually the revolver) at the area I just saw a bullet trail originate from. No enemy model seen or hit. Sure I might have missed some of the times.

But there's no way a 30-30, Sentinel, or Longbow are out of range of a player that just sniped me a couple building lengths away


I love it when devs prove how trash their game is by letting people take 500 damage to the face and not get downed (300 from double tap shotty and two nades). There should be 0 situations where you get to sit with your squad in the back and just heal so I cant clean you up after 500 damage dealt.

But of course since i only have a blue shield cause there havent been any better ones or crafting materials, i gotta die to a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who finally managed to deal 200 damage.

[Deraxim]

Originally posted by R-S!N:

Think about it: A player doesn't even need to SEE an opponent directly and the aim will snap right on them!! lame af.

PATHETIC cheaters with 5x damage hack, wall hacks, auto-aim hack, etc.., & that PATHETIC in-game aim-assist is BROKEN AF.

also Sh!TTY servers with no-hit-reg....

JUNK a$ Fu<K tainted toxic game will DIE if ea/devs don't fix it soon.... pfft so be it.

the aim dosnt snap onto them my guy... please watch a video on how the AA works

[Deraxim]

Originally posted by Asrah:

Originally posted by R-S!N:

Think about it: A player doesn't even need to SEE an opponent directly and the aim will snap right on them!! lame af.

PATHETIC cheaters with 5x damage hack, wall hacks, auto-aim hack, etc.., & that PATHETIC in-game aim-assist is BROKEN AF.

also Sh!TTY servers with no-hit-reg....

JUNK a$ Fu<K tainted toxic game will DIE if ea/devs don't fix it soon.... pfft so be it.

I dont think they CAN. My 3080TI/5600X PC that runs the game at constant 144FPS at 3440X1440 full ultra, doesnt render enemy models out as far as they can snipe me.
I can be oneshot with aim assist at ranges I cant even see or hit my enemy at. I regularly fire a couple Sniper rounds (usually the revolver) at the area I just saw a bullet trail originate from. No enemy model seen or hit. Sure I might have missed some of the times.

But there's no way a 30-30, Sentinel, or Longbow are out of range of a player that just sniped me a couple building lengths away


I love it when devs prove how trash their game is by letting people take 500 damage to the face and not get downed (300 from double tap shotty and two nades). There should be 0 situations where you get to sit with your squad in the back and just heal so I cant clean you up after 500 damage dealt.

But of course since i only have a blue shield cause there havent been any better ones or crafting materials, i gotta die to a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who finally managed to deal 200 damage.

wait how can your pc cannot render enemy players that far?
i got a 1650 and 1920x1080 pc with a ryzen 5 3600 and 32 gb ram playing with all settings on lowest just to be sure i got over 120 fps and still can see people far in the distance... im confused rn

[Asrah]

Originally posted by Deraxim:

wait how can your pc cannot render enemy players that far?
i got a 1650 and 1920x1080 pc with a ryzen 5 3600 and 32 gb ram playing with all settings on lowest just to be sure i got over 120 fps and still can see people far in the distance... im confused rn

It can. Does it fine unless Im being shot at by someone that I havent looked at yet. Usually loads em fine once Ive actually seen them. But by that time Im usually dead.

Its not a system specs thing. its an engine thing. Its normally called "occlusion culling" aka unrendering things that arent in view to save RAM. However I have APL on full ultra, and I dont use any settings reductions in Nvidia Control Panel.

So for some reason the game just does it own its own. Im nowhere near my VRAM, let alone RAM limit. 12GB on GPU, 32GB system DDR4 3600 CL16.

[LowKey_ZA]

OP, do you know that the video you posted had aim assist set to 100 in custom to show how it works? I see so many mnk players complaining about aim assist but none that picked up a controller and turned it off. The controller players beaming you are cheaters with a zen and aim bot. The actual casual controller players can't aim for ♥♥♥♥. Today I realized that my aim assist is not even working and never was for the entire time I've been playing since season 11. I'm still ♥♥♥♥ but it's ok because I'm trying to improve. What I can't stand is mnk players that have an arm to aim (not one thumb) complaint about an assist. If you so good then beam 12 year old Jimmy on his with 0.6 ps3! The guy who made that video says he has no valid argument to remove aim assist so stop crying.

[Baron]

Originally posted by Deraxim:

Originally posted by Animals:

Game full of Cheater

u suck /shrug

you claim you can't get a single kill yet call out others for being bad? holy ♥♥♥♥ the delusion on you controller maggots.

[Varyans]

I do not understand "...I understand the need for aim assist...", really do not understand it. We are swimming in the tech ocean and still using 5 or 6th or even more older generation tech on console controller? My god, I pass Amiga, at the time of Atari or later Commodore 64, there were more sensitive action joysticks and with 21. century and can not produce better than that?
No, aim asist is just a bait to pull FPS players to the consoles, not to pc with M/K. Because they can not give games to console players more than Resident Evil, F.E.A.R, Killzone or smilars.