How do you feel about ranking system?

[Vartotojas]

We all know when we get in the ranked game, there's always higher rank player.

[ONLY™ BISCUIT® ©]

Originally posted by Fizikas:

We all know when we get in the ranked game, there's always higher rank player.

im a newbie, on season 12 i almost silver for 3 days. Now from rookie 3 i only get bronze 1 for almost 3 weeks solo. and yeah there's always atleast gold in my lobby

[Nobody]

Ranking is now actualy revarding and i like it. Since this season, ranks before plat were like not existing thing... now im happy im gold and game rly pushes me to try more than before.

However one thing is missing in this whole rework concept.. Proper matchmaking.. It simply doesnt make sence to stick in one lobby/team people from gold and bronze or even rookie.

I think they will make changes to this soon as it is obviously main issue now.

[fake benny]

its a good change; ranked is supposed to be challenging; before it was too casual friendly

Originally posted by Nobody:

Ranking is now actualy revarding and i like it. Since this season, ranks before plat were like not existing thing... now im happy im gold and game rly pushes me to try more than before.

However one thing is missing in this whole rework concept.. Proper matchmaking.. It simply doesnt make sence to stick in one lobby/team people from gold and bronze or even rookie.

I think they will make changes to this soon as it is obviously main issue now.

it makes sense to put varying ranks in one team and in one lobby; otherwise you'll be waiting for 30 minutes to get into queue at bronze to be teamed up and lobbied with bronze players. this happens in almost every game that has a ranked system.

[CCore]

Originally posted by barcode:

its a good change; ranked is supposed to be challenging; before it was too casual friendly

Originally posted by Nobody:

Ranking is now actualy revarding and i like it. Since this season, ranks before plat were like not existing thing... now im happy im gold and game rly pushes me to try more than before.

However one thing is missing in this whole rework concept.. Proper matchmaking.. It simply doesnt make sence to stick in one lobby/team people from gold and bronze or even rookie.

I think they will make changes to this soon as it is obviously main issue now.

it makes sense to put varying ranks in one team and in one lobby; otherwise you'll be waiting for 30 minutes to get into queue at bronze to be teamed up and lobbied with bronze players. this happens in almost every game that has a ranked system.

It makes more sense for it to be more lenient in a game with 60 players in a lobby, but it should not be THIS lenient. In bronze, I see golds in my game all the time. Many have former diamond or masters badges. When I first got into apex I binged it for about 2 months. I got from bronze to gold and then just stopped. At that point I had a 2.3kd and a 13% winrate. I was obviously better than the people in those ranks due to my previous fps experience.

Now, due to the rank reset there's a big range of skill in the lower ranks. My KD is now 1.1, and my winrate, just 2% (Think I've only won 1 game so far). I shouldn't be getting current gold players in my game. Or getting a rookie IV level 20 player who drops solo and ends the game on 0 damage (That actually happened)

I would take longer queues over more balanced games any day. Balance should be top priority in a competitive mode.

[hammercranc]

I like it better than toriginally tbh

[fake benny]

Originally posted by UltraSexInferno:

Originally posted by barcode:

it makes sense to put varying ranks in one team and in one lobby; otherwise you'll be waiting for 30 minutes to get into queue at bronze to be teamed up and lobbied with bronze players. this happens in almost every game that has a ranked system.

It makes sense for shorter queues but no sense for an actual ranked league. There is a huge difference between a rookie/bronze and a gold, and the idea is that you are meant to be playing with and against players of your level. No system with any integrity would put players of such a wide skill gap against each other.

not true; bronze to gold does not have such of a wide skill gap; also, they are matched against and with each other;

other games that are famous for their ranks like league put you in lobbies with bronze, silver, gold; then differentiate gold, plat, and sometimes diamond.

[fake benny]

Originally posted by CCore:

Originally posted by barcode:

its a good change; ranked is supposed to be challenging; before it was too casual friendly



it makes sense to put varying ranks in one team and in one lobby; otherwise you'll be waiting for 30 minutes to get into queue at bronze to be teamed up and lobbied with bronze players. this happens in almost every game that has a ranked system.

It makes more sense for it to be more lenient in a game with 60 players in a lobby, but it should not be THIS lenient. In bronze, I see golds in my game all the time. Many have former diamond or masters badges. When I first got into apex I binged it for about 2 months. I got from bronze to gold and then just stopped. At that point I had a 2.3kd and a 13% winrate. I was obviously better than the people in those ranks due to my previous fps experience.

Now, due to the rank reset there's a big range of skill in the lower ranks. My KD is now 1.1, and my winrate, just 2% (Think I've only won 1 game so far). I shouldn't be getting current gold players in my game. Or getting a rookie IV level 20 player who drops solo and ends the game on 0 damage (That actually happened)

I would take longer queues over more balanced games any day. Balance should be top priority in a competitive mode.

when you first got into apex and played ranked, didn't you get gold players in your bronze & silver lobbies and maintained a 2.3 kd with 13% winrate? but, youre complaing now that the gold players are killing you more often than before.

also, the leniency you have mentioned is bronze to gold much like other games with a competitive mode; though as you have mentioned lower ranks are inundated with higher skilled players than before, its not much of a difference; higher skilled players will eventually rank up; but, to compromise waiting time for a more "balanced" game is invalid regards to what a competitive mode and even a game aims to achieve.

[CCore]

Originally posted by barcode:

Originally posted by CCore:

It makes more sense for it to be more lenient in a game with 60 players in a lobby, but it should not be THIS lenient. In bronze, I see golds in my game all the time. Many have former diamond or masters badges. When I first got into apex I binged it for about 2 months. I got from bronze to gold and then just stopped. At that point I had a 2.3kd and a 13% winrate. I was obviously better than the people in those ranks due to my previous fps experience.

Now, due to the rank reset there's a big range of skill in the lower ranks. My KD is now 1.1, and my winrate, just 2% (Think I've only won 1 game so far). I shouldn't be getting current gold players in my game. Or getting a rookie IV level 20 player who drops solo and ends the game on 0 damage (That actually happened)

I would take longer queues over more balanced games any day. Balance should be top priority in a competitive mode.

when you first got into apex and played ranked, didn't you get gold players in your bronze & silver lobbies and maintained a 2.3 kd with 13% winrate? but, youre complaing now that the gold players are killing you more often than before.

also, the leniency you have mentioned is bronze to gold much like other games with a competitive mode; though as you have mentioned lower ranks are inundated with higher skilled players than before, its not much of a difference; higher skilled players will eventually rank up; but, to compromise waiting time for a more "balanced" game is invalid regards to what a competitive mode and even a game aims to achieve.

The gold players are killing me more often than before, because many of them don't belong in gold, since the ranking system is obviously all over the place right now, and the people that have ranked up to gold at this point are usually not gold players. At this moment in time, it would be more sensible to have a more strict balancing system. In older ranked system, gold players were likely at or below my skill level, hence I had no trouble dealing with them - at the current time, they're definitely above my skill level, since many of them were previously much higher ranked.

Like, I obviously understand that some compromises have to be made for queue times. It's one of the reasons overwatch has such long queue times - due to role imbalances and the fact that it never usually matches different ranks unless you're on the edge of a rank, or grouped up with someone of a different rank. But ranked apex right now is a mess in terms of balance, and probably will be for a good month or so after things iron out.

I guess the TLDR is at the current moment, having a very lenient system makes the games even more imbalanced than they already are.

[fake benny]

Originally posted by UltraSexInferno:

Originally posted by barcode:

not true; bronze to gold does not have such of a wide skill gap; also, they are matched against and with each other;

other games that are famous for their ranks like league put you in lobbies with bronze, silver, gold; then differentiate gold, plat, and sometimes diamond.

There is a huge difference between bronze and gold.

Other games are irrelevant to this discussion.

both have kekw aim; both dont know how to rotate well; both dont know what to prioritize in end game; both dont know how to fight 3v3; where are the huge differences?

[[Gp] Zephy ??]

It fcking sucks. period. Respawn seriously screwed up the game BIG time.

[fake benny]

Originally posted by UltraSexInferno:

You are talking about prior seasons my friend. Totally different nowadays.

However do you think 3 bronzes vs 3 golds is fair matchmaking?

https://apexlegendsstatus.com/game-stats/ranked-distribution

Considering 97% of the population in ranked is bronze to gold.

well, yes; your 3 bronzes vs 3 golds seems unfair because youre measuring their skills merely by their ranks, which is what the new changes are for: for players' ranks to be a viable indication of skill, which wasn't in previous seasons.

Respawn decided to clump everyone close so that there will be a mathematically apt distribution of players amongst the ranks;

[DVD-Player]

yeha Solo queing is so good right now u get -160 rp after 3 games. Its way more easy to rank up now beacuse 5 kp top 6 gives u minus rp so yeha its a win win for all the pro players out there. thank u respawn for making ranked better and btw there is alot of campers now. that means apex is even more fast paced than ever....i love apex legends right now

[fake benny]

Originally posted by UltraSexInferno:

Well of course I am, that is the purpose of being ranked in the first place.

97% of players are bronze to gold. It is foolish to say they are all the same with 'kekw' aim and should be ranked together.

Ranked should actually be ranked, bronze vs bronze, silver vs silver, gold vs gold and so on. There are more than enough players online to do it this way and fill servers in a reasonable time.

Unless you have some insight as to why the first four ranked leagues should be pitted together instead of vs their actual ranked peers?

They both dont have the same kekw aim, but I'm sure theres not much of a variance between bronze players and gold players not only in aim, but in other variables of skill.
there might be enough players to put the same ranked players this way right now, but after time when people climb the ranks, it won't be. The most populated rank would be gold & plat, meaning bronze players, diamonds, master/pred players would experience similar queue times.

[fake benny]

Originally posted by Passion:

yeha Solo queing is so good right now u get -160 rp after 3 games. Its way more easy to rank up now beacuse 5 kp top 6 gives u minus rp so yeha its a win win for all the pro players out there. thank u respawn for making ranked better and btw there is alot of campers now. that means apex is even more fast paced than ever....i love apex legends right now

you gotta understand the system; getting kp before top 10 is useless when your entry cost is 30+ rp. you gotta play loot simulator before you place top 10 unless you have to fight a team.

[lolschrauber]

Not perfect but a step in the right direction for sure, requiring you to play how it's meant to be and rewarding better Overall Team performance