Packet Loss Singapore Server

[Kotoko]

Anyone else getting constant packet loss this season? been happening to me since the end of S11. gets more often this season.. Game is unplayable hmm

[KNDY | No Toxicity!]

ISP having problem with routing.

Check if you have packet loss here:
https://packetlosstest.com

Select Singapore server and Apex Legends settings.
If you are getting any packet loss, that nails ISP being the problem and not Apex's server.
Connectivity to SG server is having problem even outside of Apex.

Several solution I have found thus far:
- Use phone internet USB tethering

- Get a VPN. Recommend : ExitLag / VPNGate / Mudfish
ExitLag and Mudfish has multiple connection routing so it can avoid congested route and
prevent packet loss. Personally have been using ExitLag and not getting packet loss any
more. Soon as I stop using any of these, I will get 20-40% packet loss.

If you do try these , let me know if they worked. Well, it at least works for almost everyone I know that actually did try.

[SaradMatthew007]

Originally posted by Tersavale-TTV:

Anyone else getting constant packet loss this season? been happening to me since the end of S11. gets more often this season.. Game is unplayable hmm

i stopped playing for this reason..season 8 excellent , season 9 issues and then after that it became ♥♥♥♥!

[SaradMatthew007]

Originally posted by KNDY | No toxicity:

ISP having problem with routing.

Check if you have packet loss here:
https://packetlosstest.com

Select Singapore server and Apex Legends settings.
If you are getting any packet loss, that nails ISP being the problem and not Apex's server.
Connectivity to SG server is having problem even outside of Apex.

Several solution I have found thus far:
- Use phone internet USB tethering

- Get a VPN. Recommend : ExitLag / VPNGate / Mudfish
ExitLag and Mudfish has multiple connection routing so it can avoid congested route and
prevent packet loss. Personally have been using ExitLag and not getting packet loss any
more. Soon as I stop using any of these, I will get 20-40% packet loss.

If you do try these , let me know if they worked. Well, it at least works for almost everyone I know that actually did try.

i have an ethernet connection 90 to 95 upload and download speed. It's the servers that are trash i think.

[KNDY | No Toxicity!]

Originally posted by SaradMatthew007:

i have an ethernet connection 90 to 95 upload and download speed. It's the servers that are trash i think.

I'm afraid I have to educate you here.
Regardless of how " fast " your internet provider is, speed does not equate to stability .
My net is currently 300mbps but still I get horrendous lag generally. You can have 1gbps net and still lag if your ISP routing towards the server is having issues.

[GhastlyDreadful]

Originally posted by KNDY | No toxicity:

ISP having problem with routing.

Check if you have packet loss here:
https://packetlosstest.com

Select Singapore server and Apex Legends settings.
If you are getting any packet loss, that nails ISP being the problem and not Apex's server.
Connectivity to SG server is having problem even outside of Apex.

Several solution I have found thus far:
- Use phone internet USB tethering

- Get a VPN. Recommend : ExitLag / VPNGate / Mudfish
ExitLag and Mudfish has multiple connection routing so it can avoid congested route and
prevent packet loss. Personally have been using ExitLag and not getting packet loss any
more. Soon as I stop using any of these, I will get 20-40% packet loss.

If you do try these , let me know if they worked. Well, it at least works for almost everyone I know that actually did try.

How would a VPN help with packet loss? Wouldn't you still be routing through your ISP's servers to get to the VPN's servers? I can't see this doing anything but adding more ping and packet loss to someone's situation that's dealing with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ISP provider.

[Sir Ciplak]

Don't mind throwing down some money on Exitlag to try it out.

Thanks for the tips.

[KNDY | No Toxicity!]

Originally posted by GhastlyDreadful:

How would a VPN help with packet loss? Wouldn't you still be routing through your ISP's servers to get to the VPN's servers? I can't see this doing anything but adding more ping and packet loss to someone's situation that's dealing with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ISP provider.

It works for me and people I've told about. In theory, what you said can be true and I'm not a professional in this field BUT the fact that is works and it solved my issue of 20-40% packet loss is undeniable.

Here's my unprofessional explanation:
If the problem is towards ISP, then perhaps there is no helping but this isn't.
There are a lot of people experiencing issues in SE Asia connecting TOWARDS Singapore server. Towards ISP is fine but it is not when it is out bound.

ExitLag and Mudfish reroutes you towards the same server so you don't lose ping. I still get my usual 20ms ping with Exitlag and this time no packet loss.

I'm just sharing what was ACTUALLY WORKS. I'm not even suggesting things that may work in theory.

Also, these are stuff you can try and TEST without paying forefront... it's important to understand which side is causing issue than outright saying is "X's" fault or saying something doesn't work.

[KNDY | No Toxicity!]

Originally posted by Sir Ciplak:

Don't mind throwing down some money on Exitlag to try it out.

Thanks for the tips.

It's free for 3 days, Don't spend money on it yet if it doesn't work.

Make sure to use 2 TCP port and 2 UDP port when connecting to the Apex Legends setting. Automatic setting may not be the greatest some times.

[D1eSmiling]

Originally posted by KNDY | No toxicity:

Originally posted by Sir Ciplak:

Don't mind throwing down some money on Exitlag to try it out.

Thanks for the tips.

It's free for 3 days, Don't spend money on it yet if it doesn't work.

Make sure to use 2 TCP port and 2 UDP port when connecting to the Apex Legends setting. Automatic setting may not be the greatest some times.

Im still getting 40 packet loss with exitlag. any tip on what setting should i enable?

[KNDY | No Toxicity!]

Originally posted by REDACTED:

Originally posted by KNDY | No toxicity:

It's free for 3 days, Don't spend money on it yet if it doesn't work.

Make sure to use 2 TCP port and 2 UDP port when connecting to the Apex Legends setting. Automatic setting may not be the greatest some times.

Im still getting 40 packet loss with exitlag. any tip on what setting should i enable?

Have you selected TCP and UDP port to be 2? Also you should NOT select " use the routes within my country first ".

That is what's causing packet loss in the first place.

This is how it should look like : https://i.imgur.com/brF03vZ.png

[Coach Potato]

Heard there is a submarine cable cut in SG and they still haven't fixed it it.

[stibibby]

Its always funny to see this. VPN? really. Adding Additional encryption and Packet overhead make latency better? come on.

I'm in Singapore and i don't even use the SG servers. That is congested AF! The entire SEA region is thrown here including India, AUS and NZ players

[KNDY | No Toxicity!]

Originally posted by Tokneneng!:

Its always funny to see this. VPN? really. Adding Additional encryption and Packet overhead make latency better? come on.

I'm in singapore and i don't even use the SG servers. That is congested AF!

If it works, it works. You can say what you want but I'm cruuiising.
Again, millage may vary. Just sharing what works for me and someone may find this to help them, or not.

Plus, we're not even talking about latency. We're talking about PACKET LOSS.
VPN may add to latency , that's a given. Please understand the topic.

But yes, speaking about congestion. That's why having multiple routes help to negate the congestion. Even with ExitLag, it shows the congested routing and gives up to 10k ping at times.

[stibibby]

Originally posted by KNDY | No toxicity:

Originally posted by Tokneneng!:

Its always funny to see this. VPN? really. Adding Additional encryption and Packet overhead make latency better? come on.

I'm in Singapore and i don't even use the SG servers. That is congested AF!

If it works, it works. You can say what you want but I'm cruuiising.
Plus, we're not even talking about latency. We're talking about PACKET LOSS.
VPN may add to latency , that's a given. Please understand the topic.

But yes, speaking about congestion. That's why having multiple routes help to negate the congestion. Even with ExitLag, it shows the congested routing and gives up to 10k ping at times.

"hat's why having multiple routes help to negate the congestion" WTF? sure You win dude.

if your Latency is high or spiking you are bound to experience packet loss due packets has TTL , If your link is saturated increased of latency is bound to cause packet loss.

The congestion i'm referring is the NEAREST INBOUND Traffic towards the Servers which is an AGGREGATED TRAFFIC of all the users connecting to the APEX servers. which disregards or strips your VPN overplayed traffic which already stopped on the last peering link of your VPN provider.

[KNDY | No Toxicity!]

Originally posted by Tokneneng!:

Originally posted by KNDY | No toxicity:

If it works, it works. You can say what you want but I'm cruuiising.
Plus, we're not even talking about latency. We're talking about PACKET LOSS.
VPN may add to latency , that's a given. Please understand the topic.

But yes, speaking about congestion. That's why having multiple routes help to negate the congestion. Even with ExitLag, it shows the congested routing and gives up to 10k ping at times.

"hat's why having multiple routes help to negate the congestion" WTF? sure You win dude.

if your Latency is high or spiking you are bound to experience packet loss due packets has TTL , If your link is saturated increased of latency is bound to cause packet loss.

The congestion i'm referring is the NEAREST INBOUND Traffic towards the Servers which is an AGGREGATED TRAFFIC of all the users connecting to the APEX servers. which disregards or strips your VPN overplayed traffic which already stopped on the last peering link of your VPN provider.

Look. I don't lag as much when I turn on the damn thing and I lag if I don't turn it on. What else do you want?

Put aside all the details and how something works, aight? Lag or no lag. That's it.
I turn it on, no lag. I suggest to others. They turn on, no lag. Then great. Still lag, welp.

I'm giving my solution that works for me. If it doesn't work, well shucks. Too bad.