Your thoughts on the Bocek Bow . Overpowered OR really strong ?

[۩THE_Incinerate ۩]

Personally . it is the unholy mix of sentinel and 30-30 but unlike the 30-30 . it got great hipfire .

I can't believe that this game was doing real grate trying to eliminate far range kills .

I know it not sniper but is it my imagination or the arrows got big hitbox and they seem to not have "bullet" drop . this is why I am not fan of bows in modern themed games.

but i will not lie , the Bocek Bow is mechanically interesting and actually fun to use but of course not fun to be in the receiving end .

[skill issue]

is just too strong, otherwise is well animated and gives a nice feeling to use.
nerf dmg 60 > 50
projectile falloff should be way higher, right now is better than other guns, while it should be worse than guns as it is a bow.

[Forge Master]

Its going to need some changes

[ZaneLear]

It is a good weapon, tho powerful as well.

Also it is mostly silent so when being shot at, it is hard to know where it is coming from until it is mostly to late.

[Chaoslink]

It’s like a stronger wingman without the skill cap. And I’ve wanted the wingman nerfed for awhile because the skill ceiling allows it to be ridiculously overpowered in the right hands. The bow is just too much right now. It single handedly makes half the guns in the game obsolete.

[lolschrauber]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

It’s like a stronger wingman without the skill cap.

Yeah because the bow has built-in aimbot. Claims like this make you look like a fool

[۩THE_Incinerate ۩]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

It’s like a stronger wingman without the skill cap. And I’ve wanted the wingman nerfed for awhile because the skill ceiling allows it to be ridiculously overpowered in the right hands. The bow is just too much right now. It single handedly makes half the guns in the game obsolete.

Agreed . even me (+300h in game) picked up the bow and having easier time using it then the wingman .

When I get destroyed by the wingman , normally it in close range by a better player and if I move right and hit my shot with flatline . i can beat them . so i don't feel like cheated when i get killed by better wingman player , opposite of the feeling i get when i get killed by the bow .

[Chaw]

They need to make different ammo types. Have the current ammo be the "legendary" version, give only 5 or 10 shots. Make regular ammo do 3\4 of what it does now.

Late game bow should be scary.

[۩THE_Incinerate ۩]

Originally posted by LD:

They need to make different ammo types. Have the current ammo be the "legendary" version, give only 5 or 10 shots. Make regular ammo do 3\4 of what it does now.

I do see how this will solve the problem but this could also cause more problems by bloating the loot pool and will not solve the issues of just getting killed from far without having time to reacting to it .

kraber is balanced by being rare (package gun) and having low amount of ammo . i like the bow being silent and unique so i feel balancing it will be a better thing .

As i pointed . Apex hardly make the long range guns strong and that for the game benefit . A lot of early BR game have issues of long range weapons dominating the meta resulting of stagnation because everyone using less guns . And putting you in huge disadvantage if you don't have one .

[lolschrauber]

Originally posted by Emerald Herald:

1. It's silent, so no other squads will hear shooting;
2. It needs no reload, and combining with tempo hop-up it has very good rate of fire;
3. It has no bullet drops like arrows should have.

I hate this weapon because of 1 and 3 reasons that makes it broken atm

You are deaf. It's not completely silent.

[۩THE_Incinerate ۩]

Originally posted by lolschrauber:

Originally posted by Emerald Herald:

1. It's silent, so no other squads will hear shooting;
2. It needs no reload, and combining with tempo hop-up it has very good rate of fire;
3. It has no bullet drops like arrows should have.

I hate this weapon because of 1 and 3 reasons that makes it broken atm

You are deaf. It's not completely silent.

Dude . I have surround sound headphone . and i have bit hard time finding from where i get shot unless i see the hard to see trail that the arrow leave .

I don't mind it being sneaky weapon . but i think that aspect need to be addressed . Emerald got point .

Edit: i resort some time to put myself out in the open , baiting my enemy to shoot me to find from where i get shot from . I tell you , that is a terrible strategy but it's the only way to find them easily .

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by lolschrauber:

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

It’s like a stronger wingman without the skill cap.

Yeah because the bow has built-in aimbot. Claims like this make you look like a fool

It’s not the aimbot, it’s the higher damage coupled with accuracy, lack of recoil and projectile speed. The weapon can be picked up by almost anyone and used to a greater efficiency than a skilled wingman player.

The first thing they need to do is slow the arrow by over half. It’s probably one of the fastest projectiles in the game right now.

[Comrade Pickles]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

Originally posted by lolschrauber:

Yeah because the bow has built-in aimbot. Claims like this make you look like a fool

It’s not the aimbot, it’s the higher damage coupled with accuracy, lack of recoil and projectile speed. The weapon can be picked up by almost anyone and used to a greater efficiency than a skilled wingman player.

The first thing they need to do is slow the arrow by over half. It’s probably one of the fastest projectiles in the game right now.

So you want a slingshot, not a bow.

[leo998]

yea its too OP, it has almost no drop and arrow speed is fast, while snipers are completely different in those aspects and the bow doesn't need to reload and shoots wayyy faster. It's actually broken, they are doing the same thing like warzone ...

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by Comrade Pickles:

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

It’s not the aimbot, it’s the higher damage coupled with accuracy, lack of recoil and projectile speed. The weapon can be picked up by almost anyone and used to a greater efficiency than a skilled wingman player.

The first thing they need to do is slow the arrow by over half. It’s probably one of the fastest projectiles in the game right now.

So you want a slingshot, not a bow.

Bullet drop in this game is already ridiculously over exaggerated compared to how a real bullet of similar calibers would drop. They’re crazy slow in game. There’s no reason that the fastest projectile is an arrow. Slow the projectile and you have a high skill weapon that would take practice to use without hindering the maximum effectiveness of the weapon. Leave it as is and every long range weapon aside from the Kraber can pretty much be removed from the game.