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If people have bad connections, don't let them play.
I'm tired of seeing people teleport all over the place because they can't be assed to pay for good internet, but can pay for a system that can run the game. Not to mention, well over half the time I see it with my teammates, they don't even speak English meaning they're probably playing in the wrong region, as well.
Last edited by Gobbo, The Lootest; Jun 20, 2021 @ 4:56pm
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Brainslime1 Jun 20, 2021 @ 5:35pm 
imagine thinking everyone has access to high speed internet. not everyone does. and if there not speaking your language doesnt mean they are in the wrong region. they just might be foreign and speaking to family. also it might be someone using a vpn which you cant really counter without a ping cap, which would effect those with actual bad internet
Gobbo, The Lootest Jun 20, 2021 @ 6:15pm 
Originally posted by Brainslime1:
imagine thinking everyone has access to high speed internet. not everyone does. and if there not speaking your language doesnt mean they are in the wrong region. they just might be foreign and speaking to family. also it might be someone using a vpn which you cant really counter without a ping cap, which would effect those with actual bad internet
Imagine being so self-centered that you don't care about others being able to enjoy the game, so you play with bad internet and teleport all over the place, screwing over your teammates and annoying other players.

If they're speaking to family, why are they in game chat?
Hurr Durr. I pay for a 1Gbps internet and the game has been giving me 180ms in a supposed 80ms server for me. The game server is partly to blame too, you know? Certain ISP can have problem even if it's in the same region resulting in instability.

Though high ping usually can still be stable no matter, things just gets delayed than teleporting. Packet loss and choke happens randomly no matter how well your internet is or how low your ping is.

Foreign player that is in your region exist too.

Thus, it's fine to complain about someone being laggy, but don't be an ass that tells people to stop playing because they can't " pay " for internet like yours.
Originally posted by Donkey M. Luffy:
Imagine being so self-centered that you don't care about others being able to enjoy the game, so you play with bad internet and teleport all over the place, screwing over your teammates and annoying other players.

If they're speaking to family, why are they in game chat?

Sounds familiar now, does it not?
Gobbo, The Lootest Jun 20, 2021 @ 6:20pm 
Originally posted by KNDY:
Hurr Durr. I pay for a 1Gbps internet and the game has been giving me 180ms in a supposed 80ms server for me. The game server is partly to blame too, you know? Certain ISP can have problem even if it's in the same region resulting in instability.

Though high ping usually can still be stable no matter, things just gets delayed than teleporting. Packet loss and choke happens randomly no matter how well your internet is or how low your ping is.

Foreign player that is in your region exist too.

Thus, it's fine to complain about someone being laggy, but don't be an ass that tells people to stop playing because they can't " pay " for internet like yours.
So you admit you play with bad connection, and contribute to the problem? Good to know. The attitude really makes me feel bad for you and your bad connection.

I've barely ever lagged because I know what I'm doing with my system, and my internet. You don't need to be wealthy to have good internet. You don't need to play multiplayer games if you have bad internet. If it's the server, it's one thing, but when only 1 or 2 people in a server have the lag, it's the player, not the game.

Also, you know what I did when I did have issues with my internet? I didn't play multiplayer games because I know that'd make me a detriment to the game and my teammates.
Last edited by Gobbo, The Lootest; Jun 20, 2021 @ 6:22pm
Bvllzye Jun 20, 2021 @ 6:32pm 
H1Z1 used to do that, if you had over 100 ping i think the game locked your weapons
Tristin Jun 20, 2021 @ 6:37pm 
The lack of internet speed / latency should not be held accountable from one player to other players. The synchronization of the server as a whole, then to the players should it be prioritized, not by individual. Especially in larger scale of game where every less than a second matters.

But then we're talking about Respawn / EA here. I've seen enough. Such is the competency I expect from them for a while now, probably should be your expectation as well.
Last edited by Tristin; Jun 20, 2021 @ 6:41pm
It feels to me as if you never really played online games. You don't seem to even understand the problem you're confronting.

High ping =/= teleportation. IF anything the person with high ping is at an disadvantage.

0ms-100ms = great or playable ping with no significant delays.
100ms-200ms = slight delay may occur on user-end
200ms-300ms = hit does not register often on user-end or with significant delays.
300ms~ = guaranteed choke or packet loss

In ALL of the above ping range, your opponent with good ping will have their shots registered earlier because their communication to the server is faster , resulting in disadvantage for the receiving end.

Players with choke or packet loss however is the one contributing to teleportation issues.
These can happen no matter , like I mentioned and in the case of Apex, it could usually be the server or the routing to the server. This is not user-end problem.

If the server is inconsistent, that is not on my end of problem, why in the world would I give a damn? I'm not contributing to the problem, I'm just playing because I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ please to.
I'm not teleporting, I play at an disadvantage yet I'm still doing well for my team, we have a great time.

EDIT: FYI, 180ms happens in between games and it is consistent since season 8 update. It will be 80ms and then 180ms. When playing Arena , these problem does not occur. So that is my fault when everything I have is at it's prime? What do I have to do now? Pay the server?
Last edited by KNDY | No Toxicity!; Jun 20, 2021 @ 6:51pm
Originally posted by KNDY:
It feels to me as if you never really played online games. You don't seem to even understand the problem you're confronting.

High ping =/= teleportation. IF anything the person with high ping is at an disadvantage.

0ms-100ms = great or playable ping with no significant delays.
100ms-200ms = slight delay may occur on user-end
200ms-300ms = hit does not register often on user-end or with significant delays.
300ms~ = guaranteed choke or packet loss

In ALL of the above ping range, your opponent with good ping will have their shots registered earlier because their communication to the server is faster , resulting in disadvantage for the receiving end.

Players with choke or packet loss however is the one contributing to teleportation issues.
These can happen no matter , like I mentioned and in the case of Apex, it could usually be the server or the routing to the server. This is not user-end problem.

If the server is inconsistent, that is not on my end of problem, why in the world would I give a damn? I'm not contributing to the problem, I'm just playing because I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ please to.
I'm not teleporting, I play at an disadvantage yet I'm still doing well for my team, we have a great time.

EDIT: FYI, 180ms happens in between games and it is consistent since season 8 update. It will be 80ms and then 180ms. When playing Arena , these problem does not occur. So that is my fault when everything I have is at it's prime? What do I have to do now? Pay the server?
You started your comments off with "Hurr Durr", and now you think I'm going to read a wall of text from you? I took a quick glance at what you have regarding ping, and you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. I'm blocking you, and ignoring you now.
KNDY | No Toxicity! Jun 20, 2021 @ 7:01pm 
Aye, No probs! You go enjoy your game. LMAO


EDIT:
For everyone else, here's some educational article. To better understand the games we play. There will certainly be a limit as to how bad ping can be fair and turns awry there on. In my case, ping above 200 are almost unplayable in terms of Apex Legends due to how much more movements there is.

It also differ from game to game as they're made differently. The argument I gave earlier are what I experience playing in Tokyo,Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, Virginia, South Carolina , Frankfurt, London.

Having no choke or loss, as confirmed when playing with mates in the given region, I wasn't teleporting so there's that. At least for Apex, the game does not treat you well when you're the one with higher delay. This can be different for other games.

Things as " lag compensation " / " Peaker's advantage ".
https://www.kovaak.com/fps-lag-compensation/

https://playvalorant.com/en-gb/news/game-updates/04-on-peeker-s-advantage-ranked/

https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/apex-legends/news/servers-netcode-developer-deep-dive

Here's a good explanation and showing every range of ping. Old vid and with different game but it you'd get the point. As mentioned earlier, up till a certain ping, things will then get awry and unpleasant for both party.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB0Vj9_c234

Choke, packet loss or lag-switch is aside the ping problem.
Good day bois and game on!
Last edited by KNDY | No Toxicity!; Jun 20, 2021 @ 8:05pm
PotatoScav Jun 20, 2021 @ 7:13pm 
True , bad connection make stutter character make speed hacks .
Luke Jun 21, 2021 @ 5:16am 
how about you develop your own game and ban all the people that lag so you can enjoy yourself :) or just get good.
CokTaiL Jun 21, 2021 @ 7:14am 
hope i can playing this game without laggy but yeah im only had 15Mbps on my internet so this is disrespect
PotatoScav Jun 21, 2021 @ 9:02am 
Originally posted by Luke:
how about you develop your own game
This is the most absurd argument i ever seen .
You hate the government ? build your own one .
You hate the life ? get your own one .
You hate the mcdonald food ? Build a mcdonald
You hate the mobile phone ? make your own phone .
You hate windows ? build your own window .
Stupid , lack luster point .
Wet_Gaz Jun 21, 2021 @ 10:24am 
Some people (like myself) are not in areas near servers so ping is always relatively high. No matter the cost of internet. Distance is always king. Plus, internet for gaming is inexpensive most places, don't attack people based on their finances, try understanding the problem instead of generalizing.

The argument that players join games at such a high latency and "ruin" the game for others doesn't really hold up either. Especially when you consider the fact that they are probably having a worse time than you. Sometimes the internet acts up. You think someone is actively enjoying teleporting everywhere?

Look at how many times you've said "they" to such a broad group of people. People with bad internet.
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