STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order™

STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order™

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Woke agenda?
Does this game have one?
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thorvindr 3 Mei 2020 @ 8:36am 
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I seem to recall every class having both male and female skins. Granted, these need to be unlocked/purchased, but they're not "always" female.
that was the first one, in BF2 you can no longer change genders.
Hmm. I didn't play the first one. I must be mis-remembering.
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The bugs eye bugs normal people.
Disney sure loves putting diversity on games though. ever played battlefront 2? half of the classes are always female(apart from clones and droids from rhe clonewars era).
and don't say about it being EA's call and such. their dev team already confirmed about how everything needs disney's approval when making or altering star wars games.
I'm against the woke agenda, but the thing is, that doesn't mean I'm against putting more girls in games... ten years ago, no one would have minded that half the cast is female. The problem isn't 'how many women are in the game', the problems are 'is it spouting a philosophy that men are trash and women are better' and 'are the women actual PEOPLE with character development and human weaknesses and such'. Fallen Order has quite a few women in it, but they're just as flawed as the men. The game's treatment of men and women is pretty even-handed, and it doesn't spout any woke philosophy to speak of.

The people who are aggravated at the number of women in this game, or any other, probably wouldn't have minded if the game had come out ten years ago, before the woke agenda kicked in. But we've become so hyper-sensitive to the presence of woke-ness that we're starting to object to the mere existence of female characters... which is quite ironic, if you think about it.
Go back to sleep.
Is woke and sjw the same thing ?
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Is woke and sjw the same thing ?
they both just mean, "thing i don't like" now. they've lost all meaning due to frequent abuse and reuse.
Coldhands 3 Mei 2020 @ 10:08am 
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Is woke and sjw the same thing ?
they both just mean, "thing i don't like" now. they've lost all meaning due to frequent abuse and reuse.
Troof.
yeah i get ya its like woke ppl were the ones who used to bully ♥♥♥♥♥♥s cause it was the popular thing to do at the time xD
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The black african character is fuglied, she have been made to look more like a monkey.

It proves that SJWs are the real racists.
Ignoring that the main antagonist is also black, and not exactly bad looking
The woke agenda isn't real and it isn't taking your enjoyment out of games, it's a lack of imagination that does that.
Justiciar- 3 Mei 2020 @ 12:34pm 
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The woke agenda isn't real and it isn't taking your enjoyment out of games, it's a lack of imagination that does that.
ok zoomer.
Droids must be free!!!
It's maybe the last Star wars property that doesn't have an over the top agenda. Of course, all the bad guys are white and male (imagine all the controversy if they showed a room of 20 imperials and every single one was Chinese... yet no one bats an eye when they show a room of 20 white people as villians), but it's definitely not as overt about it as any of the recent SW movies.
Terakhir diedit oleh burningmime; 3 Mei 2020 @ 9:23pm
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It's maybe the last Star wars property that doesn't have an over the top agenda. Of course, all the bad guys are white and male (imagine all the controversy if they showed a room of 20 imperials and every single one was Chinese... yet no one bats an eye when they show a room of 20 white people as villians), but it's definitely not as overt about it as any of the recent SW movies.
Are you talking about the movies? Because the lead antagonist of Fallen Order is a woman of color, you can't see what color the stormtroopers are beneath their armor, and the nightbrothers you fight on Dathomir are several colors, but white isn't one of them.
thorvindr 3 Mei 2020 @ 11:26pm 
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But it's definitely not as overt about it as any of the recent SW movies.

You mean like the one where they send the black guy and his asian girlfriend (who share utterly NO on-screen chemistry) out to get space-groceries while the male protagonist is constantly deified for getting everyone killed over and over by disrespecting and dis-obeying his female superiors? You mean the one where the two important female characters (Rey serves absolutely no purpose in the movie; I'm talking about Leia and Holdo) only ever speak to each other to talk about how much they love that about him?

You mean the one where Leia (the General who has done everything she can to keep Poe from getting them all killed AGAIN) abdicates her authority to Poe (the recently-demoted pilot who has just got everyone killed AGAIN by being insubordinate, faithless and seditious, whom any reasonable General would have met on the hangar deck with a firing squad ten minutes into the movie), literally scolding everyone for looking to her (the General) for verification that they should follow him (the very literal traitor and mutineer) instead of her?

You mean the one where we go back to calling her "Princess Leia" and make sure she shoots one person to prove how "badass" she is? Yeah, that's definitely an overt "woke" agenda. I could go on for hours/pages but you get the idea. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

This is the problem with Disney. They're INCREDIBLY racist and misogynist. But they're subtle and insidious about it, so it's easy for people to say "you're reading too much into it."

I'll say it again: name the Disney princess who pushed the plot forward without help from her male friend(s). Now name the female Disney character who helped the male protagonist in any meaningful way, other than being his motivation to be heroic.

The only mixed-gender Disney duo I can think of who were pretty much equally necessary to both plot and mission are Jyn Erso and Cassian Andor. Take either of them out of the film and the whole story falls apart.

So does this Disney product have a "woke agenda?" No. It does not. If you think it does, you're falling for their ACTUAL agenda.
dprog1995 4 Mei 2020 @ 12:36am 
The thing i dislike is the way they just keep showing Vader as this god powered sith which wasn't the way he really was.

I personally dislike that Vader slaughter scene in Rogue One.(Because if Vader was really that good then episode 4 should have started with Vader slaughtering everyone in Tantive 4 and retrieving the maps.)

If something, GL wanted star wars fans to see that becoming Darth Vader was more a punishment for Anakin than a prize.(For the horrible things rhat he did.)

I also don't get why fans believe that Starkiller shouldn't have been able to beat Vader since he had far more training than Luke in episode 6.
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