Hardspace: Shipbreaker

Hardspace: Shipbreaker

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Impos! Sep 24, 2021 @ 7:18pm
Cutter Grade Upgrade?
All of the cutter upgrades seem to be for range, durability, overheat reduction- ect

Do I really HAVE to use Demo charges for the harder materials? That seems extremely dumb and dangerous.
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Amanoob105 Sep 24, 2021 @ 8:15pm 
Short answer, yes you need to blow stuff up.
Not so short answer, while there are places where you will have little choice you can sometimes still find a choice. There are from what I've found very few areas where blowing things up in the only option, and most of them seem to be on javelins.
Even then if you are very careful about where and how you place them you can normally avoid damage to things you don't want it done to.

As to "dumb and dangerous"? You already have a cutting laser that can vaporise you if you catch your hand in it, a gravity gun that is harming you every time you use it and the first thing that the company did with you when you got here was kill you.
It's a bit late to be regretting having to do anything dumb and/or dangerous :steamhappy::steammocking:.
Last edited by Amanoob105; Sep 24, 2021 @ 8:15pm
Impos! Sep 24, 2021 @ 8:57pm 
Actually I just found a tool tip that suggests upgrading the level of heat your cutter can deal with (I.E, Cooldown?) might also let it cut higher grades? I'll need to try this out.

Ppff and true, but this level of dumb and dangerous got one poor old grandma shipbreaker revoked her call home "Privilege", so it seems a whole new level of dumb and dangerous.
Impos! Sep 24, 2021 @ 9:34pm 
Ah no that's "Heat capacity."

Oof, I can't upgrade to being able to cut grade 3 stuff until rank 15.
Luci Sep 25, 2021 @ 3:15am 
In earlier versions of the game, before the demo charge, there was a way to upgrade the stinger heat. But they removed it, because it would make the demo charge obsolet.
kschang77 Sep 25, 2021 @ 4:39am 
For Cut Grade 3 or above you need demo charges.

As Luci said, in the early versions they did try letting your laser upgrade to handle harder cut points. They nixed that.
SpaceBallsJim Sep 25, 2021 @ 5:47am 
Originally posted by Bee:
All of the cutter upgrades seem to be for range, durability, overheat reduction- ect

Do I really HAVE to use Demo charges for the harder materials? That seems extremely dumb and dangerous.
yes u need em, cut grade 3 can only be done with demo charge, and later on on geckos, some parts of outer shell are exctremly big, demo charges come very handy there but be careful and practice... use new tactic with every new ship to master em properly
Impos! Sep 25, 2021 @ 9:25am 
But there's an option for upgrading your Stinger heat output at rank 15?
kschang77 Sep 25, 2021 @ 5:25pm 
That's for heat capacity, i.e. harder to overheat and burn yourself.
Amanoob105 Sep 25, 2021 @ 7:01pm 
Originally posted by kschang77:
That's for heat capacity, i.e. harder to overheat and burn yourself.
True, but in turn it lets you burn though some harder materials that before your laser would have just overheated on before you could finish.
It's one of the far more useful upgrades for the tool in that way as it covers both sides of that coin.
mjfgates Sep 27, 2021 @ 4:04pm 
Yes, det charges are dangerous, and usually dumb! The only places I use them are the ion ring pylons for tanker Javelins, and dual solar battery mounts on stargazers. For everything else the splitsaw or stinger are better choices.
Impos! Sep 27, 2021 @ 7:48pm 
I hate how they're charging me 100,000 extra a day for unlocking these stupid things.
ImHelping Sep 27, 2021 @ 8:02pm 
Originally posted by kschang77:
For Cut Grade 3 or above you need demo charges.

As Luci said, in the early versions they did try letting your laser upgrade to handle harder cut points. They nixed that.
Worth mentioning they did it because they made it a permanent change rather than a toggle upgrade so you would end up overcutting.

Making it a toggle would have been both more realistic and practical to fix the beam, than changing it to "Our profit based scum corp loves unreliable explosives mounted inches away from expensive components! Because we charged you a fraction of the value of the ship materials lost if they don't work well! GENIUS way to put workers into debt and rake in profits-wait..."

Originally posted by Bee:
I hate how they're charging me 100,000 extra a day for unlocking these stupid things.
As a heads up, the disarm minigame might still be glitchy. I'm too worn out of late to regrind to demo charges (again) but last build I sent several bug reps about how the visual element of disarming demo charges is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥ that it would often not even be facing the correct 3D plane.

and even when it was facing the right direction, it was so unreliable I just started literally closing my eyes and listening to the audio instead to disarm.

... in hindsight. Why was I surprised that when they added the hab they made it so the "look here!" arrows invade your vision when using the computer monitors.

EDIT: As for heat for melting. Max heat can let you stinger melt some of the more stubborn meltable panels juuuust before you overheat. But before max, cooling rate is more useful than max. because only the max heat upgrade is really worth a damn and the steps before max are practically worthless filler that still leave you waiting on cooldown.

Though the UI is still an orange heat meter so the heat meter might as well be absent from the game for most melting use unless you awkwardly skew your view so the corner of your UI will be facing an unrelated part of the ship.
Last edited by ImHelping; Sep 27, 2021 @ 8:11pm
Impos! Sep 27, 2021 @ 9:19pm 
Oh jeeze, I've been using the bombs so sparingly, I haven't even gotten a reason to buy the disarm option yet. I might just, not do so and continue to use them sparingly, in that case.
GamingArtist Sep 27, 2021 @ 10:47pm 
Nope, kill you and cost a smooth 100K a day. After seeing your interest go down just as much to see it fly right back up, once was enough. Some tricky tethers get you almost the same income and you can hit full salvage still.
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Date Posted: Sep 24, 2021 @ 7:18pm
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