Tearblaster or Tearblast arrows?

[thebugmancometh]

Just got the tearblaster and while I haven't tried it out yet, it seems a little underwhelming, mostly because it has zero modification slots.

Iirc it's tear-rating is 100? Whereas I've got the sharpshot bow decked out with 3 tear mods, and I think it's pushing around 175 tear atm.

At best it seems like it would only have rare situational use, but I don't often have problems letting off a tearblast arrow or two even in the heat of combat.

[Seamus]

Unless they changed something for the pc version, everything I've run across says tear mods don't affect tearblast arrows at all. Meanwhile the basic hunter bow can get as much or more tear than tearblast arrows, fires faster and carries more ammo.

[CCore]

I've only used the tearblaster to rip off thunderjaw's armor and get to its heart.

But, then I found out how OP frost was, and I basically just spam tearblaster arrows to get rid of their guns, and then freeze them and spam hunter hardpoint arrows. Kills thunderjaw's in literally 30 seconds.

When I play NG+ I'm gonna forbid myself from using freeze bombs in my sling, cause they're just way too OP.

[Mansen]

Messaggio originale di Seamus:

Unless they changed something for the pc version, everything I've run across says tear mods don't affect tearblast arrows at all. Meanwhile the basic hunter bow can get as much or more tear than tearblast arrows, fires faster and carries more ammo.

Tear arrows have an AOE effect, You can punch off 2-3 components off some robots.

[Seamus]

Messaggio originale di Mansen:

Messaggio originale di Seamus:

Unless they changed something for the pc version, everything I've run across says tear mods don't affect tearblast arrows at all. Meanwhile the basic hunter bow can get as much or more tear than tearblast arrows, fires faster and carries more ammo.

Tear arrows have an AOE effect, You can punch off 2-3 components off some robots.

I'm aware of how they work. They're also slow as hell.

[Orion Invictus]

The Tearblaster, in my opinion, is better than the arrows. No need to pull a string, just aim and shoot. A few blasts of that will completely strip the armor off of every machine thanks to its wide AoE. I can have a "naked" Behemoth in a few seconds with the Tearblaster.

[Aemony]

Messaggio originale di Seamus:

Unless they changed something for the pc version, everything I've run across says tear mods don't affect tearblast arrows at all. Meanwhile the basic hunter bow can get as much or more tear than tearblast arrows, fires faster and carries more ammo.

Is the interface lying or something? O.o

http://gamergrade.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Tearblast-Arrows.jpg

[Facepalm]

Messaggio originale di Aemony:

Messaggio originale di Seamus:

snip.

Is the interface lying or something? O.o

http://gamergrade.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Tearblast-Arrows.jpg

Yes it's lying in regards to tearblast arrows; Tearblast arrows always do 200 tear damage. no matter the mods, except when hitting disc launchers which are vulnerable to tearblast arrows and they take 400 tear damage.

As for the tearblaster; if it hits a removable part, that part gets removed.

[Seamus]

Messaggio originale di Aemony:

Messaggio originale di Seamus:

Unless they changed something for the pc version, everything I've run across says tear mods don't affect tearblast arrows at all. Meanwhile the basic hunter bow can get as much or more tear than tearblast arrows, fires faster and carries more ammo.

Is the interface lying or something? O.o

http://gamergrade.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Tearblast-Arrows.jpg

Yep.
https://www.reddit.com/r/horizon/comments/6oc83g/how_tear_works/

[Orion Invictus]

Messaggio originale di Seamus:

Messaggio originale di Aemony:

Is the interface lying or something? O.o

http://gamergrade.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Tearblast-Arrows.jpg

Yep.
https://www.reddit.com/r/horizon/comments/6oc83g/how_tear_works/

Thank you so much for this link.

[yuzhonglu]

Depends on what you're fighting.

[Aemony]

Messaggio originale di Facepalm:

Messaggio originale di Aemony:

Is the interface lying or something? O.o

http://gamergrade.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Tearblast-Arrows.jpg

Yes it's lying in regards to tearblast arrows; Tearblast arrows always do 200 tear damage. no matter the mods, except when hitting disc launchers which are vulnerable to tearblast arrows and they take 400 tear damage.

The last three years of my life is a lie...

[thebugmancometh]

Messaggio originale di Seamus:

Messaggio originale di Aemony:

Is the interface lying or something? O.o

http://gamergrade.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Tearblast-Arrows.jpg

Yep.
https://www.reddit.com/r/horizon/comments/6oc83g/how_tear_works/

Wow...thanks for linking that. I didn't know the game had such ♥♥♥♥♥ (and downright lying) stats.

[Phleet]

yeah, as noted in the reddit link, tear is kinda borky. it's one of those stats that's highly situational and utility oriented, not much of a way for them to concisely metric it. tearblast arrows deal about 100 tear damage on contact, and the burst deals 100 tear damage in an AoE on its contact point on Ultra-Hard. it's double this on anything below Ultra-Hard, and double again vs certain weak points.

so that brings me to why you would use different types of Tear weapons.

Sharpshot bow Precision Arrows deal substantial tear damage at 15, where their tearblast arrows deal un-marked tear damage in an AoE on the blast for about 100 but is unaffected by mods.

Hunter bow Arrows, standard arrows deal 13 tear damage, nearly as much as Precision arrows, but doesn't consume 6 Wire. Hunter bow Hardpoints deal 38 Tear Damage, and can be modded for some serious tear damage, they only cost ridgewood and shards.

Tearblaster is very cheap to make ammo for, 1 echo shell, 1 metal vessel. it tears whatever it hits off. it can sometimes tear a chunk of armor plates off, or only a single armor plate. the rule of thumb is, "whatever it hits, comes off" your tradeoff is that it costs one weapon slot to use, so you'll have to carry other weapons alongside it which... naturally you should be anyway

so arrows=tear what you shoot + cost effective
tearblaster=tear what you hit + pretty cost effective but restrictive
tearblast arrows=tear a bunch of stuff where you shoot + high value, AoE effect.

[onomastikon]

Sorry for the necro, but I'm curious as to how up-to-date this data is: The Reddit thread is from four years ago and at a time when this game was exclusive to consoles.
Specifically: Does the oddity regarding the fixed amount of "tear" on tear arrows / tear arrow's mechanics to be unaffected by the "tear" mod still hold true? Has this not been changed or patched ever?
Thank you

[Seamus]

Yes, it's still true. I tested it myself after this thread. Tearblast arrows are fixed value.