Fallout 76

Fallout 76

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Morendie91 2020 年 11 月 8 日 下午 6:45
Why are there Super Mutants
This takes place about 60 years before fallout 1, fallout 1 is where super mutants were created, it was after fallout 1 they dispersed and you saw them in future games.

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Super Mutants shouldnt exist in this game.
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Spartykins 2020 年 11 月 9 日 下午 3:30 
引用自 degausser
Simple answer: West-Tek was experimenting with FEV in multi ills different locations. Mariposa, vault 87, CIT, and a facility in West Virginia. The WV branch was tasked with using FEV to increase food production, but then they went crazy evil overlords and tainted the nearby town’s water supply for the evilulz. Oxhorn has a video on it where he breaks down all the 76 lore.

which was probably the worst way to write in super mutants imo

seriously, every company bethesda writes does weird evil villan tier stuff that barely makes any sense
Dagordae 2020 年 11 月 10 日 上午 9:37 
引用自 Spartykins
引用自 degausser
Simple answer: West-Tek was experimenting with FEV in multi ills different locations. Mariposa, vault 87, CIT, and a facility in West Virginia. The WV branch was tasked with using FEV to increase food production, but then they went crazy evil overlords and tainted the nearby town’s water supply for the evilulz. Oxhorn has a video on it where he breaks down all the 76 lore.

which was probably the worst way to write in super mutants imo

seriously, every company bethesda writes does weird evil villan tier stuff that barely makes any sense
Er, it’s Fallout. Vault-Tec and it’s affiliates have always been comically evil. As has the US government.
Ever since day one they’ve existed to be MAXIMUM EVIL.
The fundamental existence of the Vaults themselves are to be evil.

The entire point of the setting is an over the top parody of 1950s ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Dagordae 2020 年 11 月 10 日 上午 9:43 
引用自 Knavenformed
This is the third time Super Mutants have been retconned, two games in a row even.
And seeing how the Bethesda writers have handled TES too you shouldn't really expect any kind of consistency or dedication from the games.

♥♥♥♥ just happens.
A retcon is when the lore is changed. They added to the lore, they didn’t alter any preexisting and confirmed lore. Well, not with Super Mutants. They messed with the power armor a bit.

Fallout is big on giving very little hard information, almost everything we get is from inuniverse sources. We know Master claims to be the sole creator and inventor of the Super Mutants, we also know he’s a delusional egomaniac.

That’s the crux of a lot of these lore complaints: People don’t consider that the character saying these things could be wrong. Or lying.
RMPyro 2020 年 11 月 10 日 上午 10:43 
Not sure about super mutants, but deathclaws existed before the great war, they escaped the military facilites when the nukes droped. In fallout 3, there was super mutants created in a vault, those vaults was built before the war.
最後修改者:RMPyro; 2020 年 11 月 10 日 上午 10:47
Hobo Misanthropus 2020 年 11 月 10 日 上午 11:34 
There is no reason why there can't be Super Mutants. Absolutely no lore precludes super mutants being anywhere the US government had a military and intelligence presence.

Is it a cop out and lazy, instead of creating a new type of enemy? Definitely

But is it a Retcon: No. Fallout 1 laid the groundwork for where Super Mutants come from, and basic real world logistics fills in the rest; Nothing is ever done in perfect isolation. You have to replicate results, produce divergent data, and share/collaborate within intra-department staff. FEV itself appears all over the US in the form of Black projects.

And all this completely ignores the fact that things can be discovered independently within a contemporary time frame. For example: Dragons. So many old civilizations have Dragon stories, because every civilization encountered exposed Fossils which appeared to them to be the remains of titanic reptile beasts. They, however, did not have things like Carbon dating, so what we know as fossils being millions of years old, to them would be a skeleton supposedly only days old.
最後修改者:Hobo Misanthropus; 2020 年 11 月 10 日 上午 11:34
Jack of Blades 2020 年 11 月 10 日 上午 11:44 
Hey at least they didn't add jet
CBCRonin 2020 年 11 月 10 日 下午 1:57 
引用自 Atlas
Hey at least they didn't add jet
We'll probably find some in the vertibirds the Brotherhood are flying over on from California :D.
Diarmuhnd 2020 年 11 月 10 日 下午 3:05 
Welp, if i had any sort of creative bone in my body I think Super Mutants are in Fallout 76 because ...

I think Fallout 76 is a super duper uber secret experiment by Vault-Tech being performed on all the vault dwellers of Vault 76 who are all in a deep sleep in cryo pods. Its an automated vault, running a constant virtual reality sim using loyalty programs and personality sub routines to find the perfect mind to become the Overseer of Vault 76 for when it is supposed to come back online.

These tests were to also find the best candidates who could excel in the radioactive wasteland of post war America. This included those with natural abilities to resist negative mutations while encouraging positive traits that would make the survivors better, stronger and smarter.

As all things Vault-Tech did, this test went a little F.U.B.A.R. and the "winner" of the millions of logged hours of the Nuclear Winter Battle Royale testing grounds would be mated with the smartest and most successful candidate from the open world survival sim. Then that child of that union would be trained by its AI tutors to become the pinnacle of all Overseers.

But as i said, things went very wrong, and this genetically engineered Super Overseer's mutations went haywire and perhaps at the same time a rival power infected the vaults AI systems with a virus created using unknown alien technology.

The resulting fusion of mutated human and technology drove them stark raving mad and the Master from Fallout 1 was born.

The end.

I feel this is true, my guts tells me it is. :VLOVEIT:

edit: Nothing else explains how I can have a flamethrower, distillery, orbital WMD targeting beacon and other advanced technological stuff like nukes and yet i can NOT repair or rebuild a General Atomic car, truck or motorcycle.
最後修改者:Diarmuhnd; 2020 年 11 月 10 日 下午 3:09
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