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Diarmuhnd Sep 8, 2020 @ 6:02pm
Did anyone else read the new Sep 2020 EULA?
No using exploits. No sharing accounts.

No modding or tweaking now because its very illegal.

No legal discussions about anything ZeniMax.

No contradicting Todd & Pete. (i'm paraphrasing this one big time)

...and a bunch of other stuff. Whoa, good read.

I am curious, if we refuse the new EULA can we get a refund? :LoL (don't worry, I wouldn't rely on a n answer from the Steam forums, I'll ask my lawyer.)
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Hefutoxin Sep 8, 2020 @ 6:05pm 
It's the same thing for every online game.

No, you can't get a refund.
Amanandhisdog Sep 8, 2020 @ 6:33pm 
it is pretty specific code of conduct and then user information definitions and usage.
the thing about modified files isnt about mods its about cheats and cheats disguised as mods.
if it isnt cosmetic, or has effects that can upset a balance... and many mods will fall into that grey area...they may become unusable under the new code of conduct.

the rest of it is boilerplate. users making wild spam topics about bethesda or other offices associated with bethesda were never allowed, its all just in black and white and agreed to if you clicked thru.

it would seem that illegal third party web sites using copyrighted materials to advertise as if they are official are going to have to find a new gig. youtubers advertising these same illegal third party websites will be asked to stop.

twitch streamers that also do the same will be asked to stop. hosts of these sites will be told to stop serving the illegal sites in triplicate. people spreading false or fake things they watched on a youtube channel that in turn scripted the events on a private server to push a negative narrative that does not exist as soemthing bethesda allows and supports. those kind of things will be addressed by bethesda...the renewed terms of service and end user license agreement
just spells it all out... if your not havign ahistory of doing the above things play on have fun...

if you (and i mean you in the general sense not directed at anyone or anyone ive quoted)
do any of those things mantioned above or have a history of making shady deals int he game with shady peopel you hooked up with on a shady site....you might want to remove anything you know to be not quite legit from your account sooner rather than later.

otherwise, what would any normal player have to worry about, the other half of the docs is about
how they and what they collect and how they will use it and its all to do with using this service or website or playign their games online or not.

using the op's logic single player games cant use mods now. and we all know thats a bunch of bs that wont be stopped... its about using mods that effect he gameplay online and isnt restricted to fallout 76 its for any bethesda/zeni max online game.



Pepper Pimienta Sep 8, 2020 @ 6:50pm 
Honestly i see nothing wrong with the New TOS its a Online game what did you expect its like this for any online game that mods are not technically allowed. Sounds like your just salty because you can't use cheat mods on a Online game.
alanwea Sep 8, 2020 @ 8:38pm 
What about the terms that say you can't use scripts/macros? That seems pretty heavy handed, especially since most gamer keyboards have macro keys designed in.
Hefutoxin Sep 8, 2020 @ 8:40pm 
Originally posted by alanwea:
What about the terms that say you can't use scripts/macros? That seems pretty heavy handed, especially since most gamer keyboards have macro keys designed in.

It's a fairly normal anti-bot rule.
alanwea Sep 8, 2020 @ 8:51pm 
I just did a quick read of the Blizzard EULA and Microsoft's and I didn't find anything there forbidding keyboard macros. Not so normal then...
Hefutoxin Sep 8, 2020 @ 9:03pm 
Originally posted by alanwea:
I just did a quick read of the Blizzard EULA and Microsoft's and I didn't find anything there forbidding keyboard macros. Not so normal then...

Like everything, there is a cut off.

When does a Macro become a bot? Because Blizzard WILL ban you if they think your macro is too automated. That is where the trouble lies.
Originally posted by alanwea:
I just did a quick read of the Blizzard EULA and Microsoft's and I didn't find anything there forbidding keyboard macros. Not so normal then...
you must be blind or hard of erading
https://www.blizzard.com/en-us/legal/fba4d00f-c7e4-4883-b8b9-1b4500a402ea/blizzard-end-user-license-agreement

License Limitations. Blizzard may suspend or revoke your license to use the Platform, or parts, components and/or single features thereof, if you violate, or assist others in violating, the license limitations set forth below. You agree that you will not, in whole or in part or under any circumstances, do the following:

Derivative Works: Copy or reproduce (except as provided in Section 1.B.), translate, reverse engineer, derive source code from, modify, disassemble, decompile, or create derivative works based on or related to the Platform.

Cheating: Create, use, offer, promote, advertise, make available and/or distribute the following or assist therein:

cheats; i.e. methods not expressly authorized by Blizzard, influencing and/or facilitating the gameplay, including exploits of any in-game bugs, and thereby granting you and/or any other user an advantage over other players not using such methods;

bots; i.e. any code and/or software, not expressly authorized by Blizzard, that allows the automated control of a Game, or any other feature of the Platform, e.g. the automated control of a character in a Game;

hacks; i.e. accessing or modifying the software of the Platform in any manner not expressly authorized by Blizzard; and/or

any code and/or software, not expressly authorized by Blizzard, that can be used in connection with the Platform and/or any component or feature thereof which changes and/or facilitates the gameplay or other functionality;
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this is a standard clause... accept it and move on imagine making such a broad claim wihtout able to back it up... weird... MOST macro keyboards and mice while connected wont even give you access to most games ( fortnite, csgo, pubg ) most comp games PRE ban those keyboards and mice... and instant ban ones that are found in time. just because you haev one that works doesnt mean its not being monitored for abuse.

UNLESS THE COMAPANY BACKS THAT GEAR or rreleased it themselevs. using those features for anything can get you banned. its how its been since the 90's ....


the games eula is actually more leaniant than LEAGUE OF LEGENDS... who still to this date has teh most harsh anti consumer eula in te history of gaming. tey can remove your access to teh game for them finding out you dont back their government views reguardless if you spoke of them in game. or remoev access cause they didnt like te shirt you were wearing on stream.
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DarkBeasty Sep 8, 2020 @ 9:47pm 
Originally posted by Diarmuhnd:
No using exploits. No sharing accounts.

No modding or tweaking now because its very illegal.

No legal discussions about anything ZeniMax.

No contradicting Todd & Pete. (i'm paraphrasing this one big time)

...and a bunch of other stuff. Whoa, good read.

I am curious, if we refuse the new EULA can we get a refund? :LoL (don't worry, I wouldn't rely on a n answer from the Steam forums, I'll ask my lawyer.)


hummmm you refuse the EULA prob cuz you cheat lmao
hermetic77 Sep 8, 2020 @ 10:07pm 
I read it, looks pretty standard for the new age we are moving into with the online world. I have no issues with it.
Mooman Sep 8, 2020 @ 10:30pm 
I like the no conspiracy theories and chat etiquette for a game with no chat.
Chudwick Sep 8, 2020 @ 11:17pm 
"hate" speech is best speech. the game is to say despicable things using mundane language, beats any word filters or bots...
Lord of Cinder Sep 8, 2020 @ 11:26pm 
2.12 We do not allow petitions or protests or public accusations of misconduct in chat rooms, message forums or games.

****

We also do not tolerate the deliberate and malicious spreading of misinformation or conspiracy theories about ZeniMax and yada,yada,yada


Shut up and consume lemmings!
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Exhausted Dragon Sep 8, 2020 @ 11:27pm 
Originally posted by Lord of Cinder:
Shut and consume lemmings!
Well, lemmings were consuming misinformation about F76 pretty happily so far, so I see no issue in here.
Originally posted by hermetic77:
I read it, looks pretty standard for the new age we are moving into with the online world. I have no issues with it.
right. i bet op plays or has league or any riot based game and has no issue withh how strict their EULA is it makes beths look like a dream.
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