Public teams?

[🐭]

I joined an already existing public team. The other 3 people were a strange old man talking to a couple of squeakers over their mics. For about an hour or two, they spent their time diddling with a workshop, playing at the edge of the map, and blowing each other with fat men. Or fat mans. Or whatever the plural is. Essentially they were just messing around while I doing quests.

I ended up getting a quest that sent me on a wild goose chase for some bloatfly glands that I just never found. I wasted a solid 30-45 minutes on it before giving up. Not long after this, the old man asked if anybody had seen me. He then said, "Let's just kick him. We don't need somebody who's only leeching." Then I got kicked.

This whole situation really made me wonder. Aside from the obvious advertised bonus, shared perks, and the occasional ~15 caps when somebody else on the team finishes a quest, what is there to leech? I never got any caps or notices of them ever finishing any quests. But I know I was doing some. So wouldn't they have been leeching off of me? Was I really in the wrong here?

What's your take on public teams? Have any stories to share?

[Tilarta]

Most of the time, I’ve had good teams, there has been the odd occassion where someone went inactive, but as yet, I’ve never seen any leechers.
And as a licensed LeechSalter, if I am team leader, they get kicked without question, so the fact I haven’t yet had to do this myself suggests it is rare.

I am still trying to interpret what exactly is happening from what you described.

My first thought is you joined a Hunter Team, which exists for the sole purpose of killing other players and they were trading kills.
Since you weren’t there, it sounds like they have concluded you were leeching.

But if they were the leeches, then that I have more perspective on.
In one of my games, it is common for a leech to latch on to other players and use them up with no effort given on their part.
I’ve even seen some leeches self appoint to leadership positions so they have the power to prevent themselves from being kicked.

And naturally, they tend to be hypocrits, accusing the hard working player of the thing they are doing.
But trying to convince those people they are in the wrong is pointless, because they can’t see the truth of the situation, from their perspective, they are the generous player who is being unfairly persecuted by the mean player.
Best just to ingore them and find someone else to play with.

With public teams, if you are disastatisified, simply leave and join or start another.
In my personal experience, a Public Team will fill up fast if you create it, especially if it’s an Events team.
Everyone wants the bonus XP buff since leveling up is a consistent goal on the task list for SCOREboard.

[Hefutoxin]

Originally posted by 🐭:

What's your take on public teams?

Not worth the loss of Lone Wanderer. I'll only join one when I need to finish a group daily. Then it's back to solo.

[RMPyro]

Well if they kick me, I nuke their camp. All three of them.
On serious note, I havn't been kicked so much, its mostly when someone want a friend or someone to join their team. If they kick you for being inactive they loose on it aswell because they will lose a group bonus.

[Molly ~]

That's so unfortunate for you. :(

But don't feel bad, you did nothing wrong and maybe it was their mistake to not notice you, maybe they thought that you wasn't there around them when they are doing something.

I often met a good teammate players, and a very helpful people, I am probably the lowest level in the team, most of my time, yet they would come around and helping me with the quests, giving me the items and so on. I got kicked maybe once or two because the event that they join in required the higher level player, but aside from that in my experience, people have been really nice to each other in the team.

Public team is great, if you like to meet other new players, also it help level you up very quickly. Or if you likes me, love playing around or doing nothing serious, public team is a good way to hangout with other player in the community as well. Personally, I love spying other people CAMP, see how creative they are, so I often join up the public team to get to know and see other people CAMP as well.

Have fun, don't think about it that much, people always think differently and that create the mistake on one and another, it happen all the time, you did nothing wrong then why would you still keeping it in your mind, right? Just enjoy the game

[🐭]

Originally posted by Tilarta:

My first thought is you joined a Hunter Team, which exists for the sole purpose of killing other players and they were trading kills.
Since you weren’t there, it sounds like they have concluded you were leeching.

No, it certainly wasn't that. I'm not even slightly interested in PVP. IIRC, it was either the luck bonus or the events bonus.

I'm still not understanding how it can be considered leeching though. If I'm in a team and I finish a quest, I get caps as part of the quest reward. Do part of those caps go to the rest of my team? Or do I keep them all and the rest of my team gets extra caps?

Unless I'm actually losing caps or some other resource from finishing quests or whatnot, then I'm not actually losing anything to leeches, right? Which means leeches aren't actually leeching anything, because nobody else is losing anything, right? Am I understanding this mechanic correctly?

[🐭]

Originally posted by RMPyro:

If they kick you for being inactive they loose on it aswell because they will lose a group bonus.

That's sort of what I figured. It seemed like they were doing themselves a disservice. I didn't see the motivation to kicking someone on your team unless they're being disruptive or something. That's why I thought I should ask.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by Hefutoxin:

Originally posted by 🐭:

What's your take on public teams?

Not worth the loss of Lone Wanderer. I'll only join one when I need to finish a group daily. Then it's back to solo.

I'd disagree, inspirational lets you get SCORE faster, class freak lets all your mutations be stronger, erc. That combined with double xp for clearing events is a great way to level

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by 🐭:

He then said, "Let's just kick him. We don't need somebody who's only leeching." Then I got kicked.

Originally posted by Tilarta:

Most of the time, I’ve had good teams, there has been the odd occassion where someone went inactive, but as yet, I’ve never seen any leechers.
And as a licensed LeechSalter, if I am team leader, they get kicked without question, so the fact I haven’t yet had to do this myself suggests it is rare.

There is no such thing as leeching.

Just you being there in a group is giving them a x4 modifier instead of a x3 modifier.

Would you preffer every team member to be present so they kill the mobs without you touching them and getting 0xp?

Originally posted by brian9824:

Originally posted by Hefutoxin:

Not worth the loss of Lone Wanderer. I'll only join one when I need to finish a group daily. Then it's back to solo.

I'd disagree, inspirational lets you get SCORE faster, class freak lets all your mutations be stronger, erc. That combined with double xp for clearing events is a great way to level

You both lose that lame argument. The public groups are bugged and you do not lose Lone Wanderer and you can give Inspiration, Herd Mentality etc to yourself being alone in a public group.

[Zinx]

I got kicked with my level 12-47 about 17 times because, i did either nothing but when i play with the ppl with my main that is a bloody sniper with a level of 397 nobody kicks me strange facts are the ppl are looking for someone who can kill mobs easy and they dont want to boost or the are "thinking" they are boosting you by events or kill legendaries, thats why i think now the same as

Originally posted by 🐭:

Originally posted by RMPyro:

If they kick you for being inactive they loose on it aswell because they will lose a group bonus.

That's sort of what I figured. It seemed like they were doing themselves a disservice. I didn't see the motivation to kicking someone on your team unless they're being disruptive or something. That's why I thought I should ask.

and play only solo anymore it isn't thought tru the concept of a group if someone is a "leader" and the other can easy kick you, sadly but tru

[Tilarta]

Originally posted by 🐭:

I'm still not understanding how it can be considered leeching though. If I'm in a team and I finish a quest, I get caps as part of the quest reward. Do part of those caps go to the rest of my team? Or do I keep them all and the rest of my team gets extra caps?

The few times so far I was in a Public Events team, every now and then, a message would come up on my screen:
Your teammate has conpleted a mission, you recieved 15 caps.

So you do get a reward from someone else going out and playing.
What the game considers a mission, I am uncertain.
Do Events count?

Usually I only do two confirmed missions per day, Photo Opportunity and the Reputation ones.
So most of the time I am either conpleting events or SCOREboard objectives.

To be honest, it sounds like you just got into a bad team, they wanted you to do all the work for them while they sat around doing stuff all.
And when they figured out it wasn't going to happen, kicked you for the very thing they were doing.

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Tilarta:

To be honest, it sounds like you just got into a bad team, they wanted you to do all the work for them while they sat around doing stuff all.
And when they figured out it wasn't going to happen, kicked you for the very thing they were doing.

Do you even play this game?

There is absolutely nothing you do in a group that gives the rest of the group credit.

There is no such thing as leeching.

[reptiliane]

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

Originally posted by Tilarta:

To be honest, it sounds like you just got into a bad team, they wanted you to do all the work for them while they sat around doing stuff all.
And when they figured out it wasn't going to happen, kicked you for the very thing they were doing.

Do you even play this game?

There is absolutely nothing you do in a group that gives the rest of the group credit.

There is no such thing as leeching.

You earn exp after each of your team mate quest completion.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by reptiliane:

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

Do you even play this game?

There is absolutely nothing you do in a group that gives the rest of the group credit.

There is no such thing as leeching.

You earn exp after each of your team mate quest completion.

No you don't. You earn a handful of caps when your team mates complete a quest (not event), nothing else

[Bored Peon]

The only things team mates provide is:
1. A shared perk.
2. Caps when they complete a quest.
3. Being an extra person for grouping type perks like Herd Mentality.
4. Being an extra person for increasing the group multiplier.
5. They can receive loot for your kills if in range.
6. You can receive loot from their kills in range.

If a group member wants to sit afk in their cap they aint leeching from anyone.
That afk person is actually benefiting you by increasing your multiplier and perk sharing.

So the whole leeching accusations is nothing but the blind leading the blind.

[reptiliane]

Originally posted by brian9824:

Originally posted by reptiliane:

You earn exp after each of your team mate quest completion.

No you don't. You earn a handful of caps when your team mates complete a quest (not event), nothing else

You do because i gained a level while being afk (i was on a computer next to the fallout one). Then i decided to follow the weekly repeatable xp challenge and it increased each time a team mate finished a mission.