Normal armor becomes obsolete?

[Barry]

From what i can see is normal armor becomes obsolete once you get power armor, or is it still usefull?

[Dagordae]

引用自 ™IⒶamᴴᴰkiller℡：

From what i can see is normal armor becomes obsolete once you get power armor, or is it still usefull?

While power armor is king of defense, it cannot become legendary.
There are all kinds of broken combos for basic armor, if you can get the armor.

Plus there are perk cards that are normal armor only, many of which also give you unmatchable buffs.
And unarmed, if you want to be the absolute lord of damage.

[Pizza Basil]

The virgin power armor user vs the chad wood armor

[mimizukari]

depends on perks and legendary perks/stats

[Tilarta]

I take a weight capacity drop whenever I enter power armor, so I prefer not to use it for that reason.

Most times though, I've never needed to.
Power Armor is kindof just for radiation proofing.

[Big Boss]

depends on perk card choices, types of armor, and legendary prefixes. You can surpass power armor damage resistance with the right build.

Power armor gives a set bonus in resistance. They are effective for rad zones but give you better protection with different physical damage than something like the stealth suit/hazmat suit. You cant get legendary armor though for PA.

[RMPyro]

Endgame power armor is weaker than normal armor.

[Dagordae]

引用自 Big Boss：

depends on perk card choices, types of armor, and legendary prefixes. You can surpass power armor damage resistance with the right build.

Power armor gives a set bonus in resistance. They are effective for rad zones but give you better protection with different physical damage than something like the stealth suit/hazmat suit. You cant get legendary armor though for PA.

Power armor’s got a hidden flat damage reduction. 7% per piece and 15% on the frame.
So a baseline 42% reduction before the actual armor kicks in. While you can still beat that with normal armor it takes stacking legendary effects.

As one who just recently switched from unarmed to power armor builds, just because, the difference is extremely noticeable. While my overall DR is lower on paper, in practice I have become FAR more durable even without my power armor being anything special.

[Ommamar]

I didn't like how widespread power armor was in Fallout 4 and I don't care for how it is handled in 76. By the logic of the universe anything designed to be able to allow and individual to go head to head with an armored tank should be unquestionably better then any other type of armor available. It also should be a lot rarer with fusion cores being even more of an obstacle to its use, I also would like to see training to use it be involved. I am sure it was designed for grunts to be able to utilize it but even they would have gotten training. But you can just jump into the frame as Mr/Mrs. vault person and away you go.

There could be a claim that vault tech training included instruction on it but if that was the case why would they have not secured a suit for each resident? Video of people clunking around in them while stuck in the vault would of been a nice touch.

[Mana Burst]

引用自 Ommamar：

I didn't like how widespread power armor was in Fallout 4 and I don't care for how it is handled in 76. By the logic of the universe anything designed to be able to allow and individual to go head to head with an armored tank should be unquestionably better then any other type of armor available. It also should be a lot rarer with fusion cores being even more of an obstacle to its use, I also would like to see training to use it be involved. I am sure it was designed for grunts to be able to utilize it but even they would have gotten training. But you can just jump into the frame as Mr/Mrs. vault person and away you go.

There could be a claim that vault tech training included instruction on it but if that was the case why would they have not secured a suit for each resident? Video of people clunking around in them while stuck in the vault would of been a nice touch.

Partially agree, partially disagree. Fallout 4 screwed up in my opinion by giving you a full T-45 way to soon, and when the BoS show up you have infinite easily accessible suits of T-60 by finding sites where they get their faces stomped in by raiders/mutants/robots/whatever.

In 76 it's much longer, but not necessarily harder, to find a full set, but the leveling system makes them all much mroe viable, though the Excavator is definately not good for combat in the long run comparatively. That said, it definately doesnt feel like 'I can take on a tank' level power, which is an unfortunate balancing act to make it that PA isn't the end-all beat-all armor.

I prefer Power Armor, I collect it, I get all the mods I can on 4 that give new suits, and I stomp around in it everywhere I go whenever possible, because I love the entire design of it. If it were restricted, I would have much less agency to continue playing.

[Bishop]

Power armor is bad for stealth and stuff like unyielding and serendipity will not work in power armor. Its good for stuff like melee and heavy weapons where you can just rush forward and tank hits.

[Ommamar]

That is one of the complaints with the newer games starting with FO3 you can get it fairly early especially if you focus on getting in with the BoS. Where in the first 2 games you got it pretty late and it was considered the end game armor. With FO4 you can get it literally in the first 15 minutes it is low level and you are tempered a little in its use for the vanilla game by a power source. But that doesn't last to long then you can use it to your hearts content. This of course puts Bethesda in a bind as if they did revert back to putting it behind a content wall it would of been one more complaint people had.

Your point about the balance is valid as it goes against the lore with military users being able to take on Chinese tanks. But in game with certain builds there is better armor then the power armor. I guess it is good to give options but it can make finding this superior military equipment anti climatic.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Both are Viable endgame, anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

But Power Armor in particular favors Heavy Weapons builds because of a specific perk. It is effectively impossible to min/max a Heavy Weapon build without power armor.

Lighter armors have more granularity and the advantage of Legendary stats. Both kinds of armor can effectively become nearly invincible, but Power Armor is much easier to do.

[mimizukari]

引用自 Hobo Misanthropus：

Both are Viable endgame, anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

But Power Armor in particular favors Heavy Weapons builds because of a specific perk. It is effectively impossible to min/max a Heavy Weapon build without power armor.

Lighter armors have more granularity and the advantage of Legendary stats. Both kinds of armor can effectively become nearly invincible, but Power Armor is much easier to do.

i would say normal armor is much easier to do.

[Rascal]

引用自 DawgShit：

The virgin power armor user vs the chad wood armor

[The Waffle that Lurks]

A full set of Vanguard armor and perks like Evasion can actually buff your defense higher than power Armor. atm with my Mutations Scaly Skin and Grounded along with 5 Pieces of Studded
Leather Deep Pocket Vanguard armor i have over 800 energy resistance and have 400 physical defense
granted my physical is lower than power armor but energy attacks do nothing to me