Dashing doesn't work, I guess.

[Shady]

Does for everyone else. Just not me. I must be playing a different game.

Everyone I watch, full iframes during dash, no care in the world, spam spam spam. Only take damage between the "group" cooldown.

But me? Constantly just taking tons of damage mid-dash, even with Athena, etc etc. Big yawn. Why does this ♥♥♥♥ not work for me.




While I'm at it, why is Theseus throwing his javelin at me through pillars, and why is Hades' beam killing me through pillars?

Why is my game different from everyone else's...

[sun6000]

the first part can maybe, possibly be explained if you were holding attack during a dash, which may cancel it out if your not being careful, even athena's dash will be nullified.

the other cases? Thats a bit more confusing, i guess one thing that may be troubling is the admittedly SLIGHTLY odd perspective of things, and your position wasnt quite behind the pillar. But i cant confirm those thoughts unless i saw a picture, and i understand if you dont wanna go all the way to Hades just to get proof, so...yeah...a bit of an odd situation.

Theseus i will also warn you, with certain gods buffs, can actually gain sneaky ways to hit you behind a pillar if your to close, most notable example is Zeus'es buff which grants him splash damage.

[Bron Kast]

Have you reported this?

[0restes]

A video would explain it far better.

[sticky]

You're playing the same game, these mechanics are just less safe than they might first appear. Pillars are notoriously far thinner than they look, for example, making safely hiding behind them a little unintuitive. As for the dashing, your timing is probably just a little off. Athena's dash feels like it has more invulnerability to me. If I mash dash to chain together Athena dashes then I appear to stay fully invulnerable the entire time, though I'm not sure this is the case with a normal dash.

[Nibbie]

The pillars you are probably just looking at them wrong, thinking their hitbox extends further up than it actually does due to perspective. The dash doesn't have full iframes at all, it has some, but its fairly small. The videos you are comparing to probably either time it better or use the dash to actually dodge attacks rather than iframe through them. In both cases, a video demonstrating your point(s) would allow us to confirm what is happening.

[Shady]

I'll try to get screenshots of the Hades pillars, but it happens frequently. Saw it happen to Barb earlier today, too, lol.

https://i.imgur.com/fw9h4tK.jpg

This is Theseus hitting me through the pillar. This is me reviving after the "return" of his javelin killed me, but the initial throw was in the same exact place. I literally stopped moving when it happened, going, "WTF????????" (My snap-reaction wasn't to hit my F12 key for screenshot, but to just give up after a really obnoxious run overall. Then I thought, "Oh, I better grab this screen though.")

[culo_de_sal]

its probably not
its prolly just you being salty

[Minneyar]

Originally posted by TGB:

This is Theseus hitting me through the pillar.

It's a little hard to tell since Zagreus is obscured by both the special effects and the column, but it looks to me like there is a clear line between Theseus and Zagreus (despite the edge of Theseus' model clipping behind the pillar): https://imgur.com/a/mN99GVX

[Shady]

That doesn't really look like a "clear line" lol. The pillar should be in the way. ESPECIALLY considering how many times a totally flat wall that I'm up against will actually block my Adamant Rail shots going outward.

I do think it "makes more sense" considering that everything is all about the absolute bottom of a character model, i.e. the feet. So if his javelin is coming out of his toes, then maybeeee. But that's a whole other can of worms. Like me missing all of my shots because I'm shooting AT enemy heads & torsos instead of their ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ feet...

UGH......................

I do love this game, but holy ♥♥♥♥ there are certainly a lot of little things that piss me off...

[Lawster]

Tried reinstalling the game?
A video would be better to investigate what may be happening.

[Minneyar]

Originally posted by TGB:

I do think it "makes more sense" considering that everything is all about the absolute bottom of a character model, i.e. the feet.

I just drew the line from the base of his model as an example so that it's clear it doesn't intersect with the base of the pillar. Assuming the z-axis of both the edge of the pillar and Theseus' model are parallel, it doesn't matter how high up the projectile comes out, it still won't intersect.

[Shady]

Yes, and that's a totally ridiculous mechanic to have.

When you're just swinging a melee weapon around, you don't really care, but when you're shooting guns at enemy heads and bodies but you're not supposed to, it gets pretty obnoxious.

[0restes]

Make a video already. Theseus is aided by the gods in his second phase and this could be something else than his regular attack.

[TheDeadlyShoe]

It sounds like you may be trying to time your dashes as if the iframes are in the middle, but really they are more at the start.

Try taking Ruthless at the mirror. The Near Miss popup will give you feedback for when you did a successful iframe dodge, and having only 1 dash instead of multiple will force you discipline your dashes instead of spamming and hoping for the best.

Iframes also dont seem to work on some aoes.

[Moth]

Originally posted by TGB:

I'll try to get screenshots of the Hades pillars, but it happens frequently. Saw it happen to Barb earlier today, too, lol.

https://i.imgur.com/fw9h4tK.jpg

This is Theseus hitting me through the pillar. This is me reviving after the "return" of his javelin killed me, but the initial throw was in the same exact place. I literally stopped moving when it happened, going, "WTF????????" (My snap-reaction wasn't to hit my F12 key for screenshot, but to just give up after a really obnoxious run overall. Then I thought, "Oh, I better grab this screen though.")

I've noticed that enemy projectiles don't interact with terrain for the first ~0.1 seconds of their flight. It's only noticable when an enemy is hugging a wall. You'll see it best if [REDACTED] does his laser while standing on top of one of the pillars, the laser will go a decent way through it (though it usually gets blocked by the opposite wall).