Why is Phalanx Shot so garbage?

[GaviJa]

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[letir]

Because it's best shot in the game, duh.

[GaviJa]

Messaggio originale di mar:

Because it's best shot in the game, duh.

Trippy shot is better, and also the duo boon with Phalanx shot is by far the worst damage wise

[TommyEV]

Messaggio originale di GaviJa:

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Because it's not.

Messaggio originale di GaviJa:

Messaggio originale di mar:

Because it's best shot in the game, duh.

Trippy shot is better, and also the duo boon with Phalanx shot is by far the worst damage wise

Not the best either.

[letir]

Messaggio originale di GaviJa:

Trippy shot is better, and also the duo boon with Phalanx shot is by far the worst damage wise

Phalanx shot is not about damage. It is powerful defensive tool against projectiles and doing job of marking for Boiling/Abyssal Blood.

[アゼム]

Lol what, phalanx is S-tier cast boon

[Nibbie]

Considering it is quite far from garbage, maybe the issue is you?

[phenir]

It's trying to do too much and ends up being meh at all of them. Does more damage than some casts, but not as much as trippy or crush or crystal or slicing. Has aoe but not as much as trippy, crush, wave, or slicing. The projectile is slow and deflecting with cast is kind of awkward since there is a small delay.
It's usable but I'd prefer any other cast except zeus.

[アゼム]

Messaggio originale di phenir:

It's trying to do too much and ends up being meh at all of them. Does more damage than some casts, but not as much as trippy or crush or crystal or slicing. Has aoe but not as much as trippy, crush, wave, or slicing. The projectile is slow and deflecting with cast is kind of awkward since there is a small delay.
It's usable but I'd prefer any other cast except zeus.

Yeah but you retain the ability to embed crystals which is invaluable for bosses when paired with the mirror damage buff

[phenir]

Messaggio originale di TaquitoBurrito:

Messaggio originale di phenir:

It's trying to do too much and ends up being meh at all of them. Does more damage than some casts, but not as much as trippy or crush or crystal or slicing. Has aoe but not as much as trippy, crush, wave, or slicing. The projectile is slow and deflecting with cast is kind of awkward since there is a small delay.
It's usable but I'd prefer any other cast except zeus.

Yeah but you retain the ability to embed crystals which is invaluable for bosses when paired with the mirror damage buff

Ok? So can crush and wave and true shot and the other casts that can't will do enough damage to make up for it, especially if you already have damage bonuses from elsewhere.

[アゼム]

Messaggio originale di phenir:

Messaggio originale di TaquitoBurrito:

Yeah but you retain the ability to embed crystals which is invaluable for bosses when paired with the mirror damage buff

Ok? So can crush and wave and true shot and the other casts that can't will do enough damage to make up for it, especially if you already have damage bonuses from elsewhere.

They really don't. True shot could, but you trade off the aoe. The others aren't even comparable. Crush is garbage and wave is more for clearing chambers

[The Sojourner]

Messaggio originale di TaquitoBurrito:

...Crush is garbage...

I have to agree, but I did find one good use for it: bow, aspect of Hera. It gives the cast the range back...

...and that's about it. Phalanx Shot is the best cast that can lodge into enemies (next to True Shot and Electric Shot). Better with the Duo boon, too!

[phenir]

Messaggio originale di TaquitoBurrito:

Messaggio originale di phenir:

Ok? So can crush and wave and true shot and the other casts that can't will do enough damage to make up for it, especially if you already have damage bonuses from elsewhere.

They really don't. True shot could, but you trade off the aoe. The others aren't even comparable. Crush is garbage and wave is more for clearing chambers

You misread my post. I meant that crush, wave, and true shot can also lodge stones in, and the casts that can't (crystal, slicing, trippy) will do enough damage to make up for that.
Crush isn't garbage, it's basically a high damage replacement for melee. Plus if you do it right, you can just spam it without it getting lodged in the enemy making it incredibly high dps. It also has that support boon that doubles its range and gives it even more burst.
I'll give you wave doesn't do as much damage, but the room clear is fantastic with its huge aoe and wall slamming and that is going to save you a ton of time. That is until you get support boons for it. The duo boon with demeter makes it disgusting at ripping apart bosses and razor shoals gives it a nice fat dot.