Extreme Measures 4 overstays its welcome.

[Xeilua]

At first, I was having a blast learning how to deal with all of the new boss attacks and patterns (love the summon). Then I reached phase 2 and the boss started healing itself. Then the boss gets a phase 3 (see: another health bar) and continued healing itself. Screw all the players who learned to avoid the jars instead of breaking them, right?

So either my DPS needs to be high enough to outdamage that ridiculous 1500 HP per tick heal, or I need to actually disengage from the fight to play the Jar Janitor minigame (breaking those jars sucks on a controller). Either method drags out the fight longer than it should, adding an impending sense of boredom. I didn't even have Calisthenics Program on.

This isn't fun, Supergiant. EM1-3 made good boss fights better through new mechanics; EM4 turns the best boss fight in the game into an artificially lengthy slog by overinflating a health bar. While the original final boss fight gave me an adrenaline rush for over 100 runs in a row, this version just leaves me feeling exhausted and disinterested in the game itself.

[Darth Bokeh]

Just don’t choose it. There are heat conditions that exist that I never select and this is one of them.

[Lynfinity]

How exactly EM4 overstays its welcome when it's entirely on you to enable/disable it?

[Nibbie]

I didn't have a problem with it, beat it second attempt. Breaking at least some pots was always ideal over just avoiding them because you get more space to move, not sure why you would want to just avoid them all in the first place. They also aren't that hard to break with controller, they have targeting just like regular enemies, and most dashes deal with them fine anyway.

[Its LB]

If you are doing EM4 then you should expect it to be a little in Hades' favor. To be honest normal Hades is super easy once you beat him about 10 times (I've beaten him after Deadelus' Anvil ♥♥♥♥♥♥ me over with Cursed Slash and Dashing Nova) and EM4 shows that with a bit of a tune up he can stay consistently as a hard boss. The Pots are there for you to make a choice, do you try to break the pots and accidently stunning yourself or do you try to do as much damage to Hades as possible, doing more damage than he is healing for. They are actually one of my most favorite part of the run cause with aspects like Nemesis, Arthur, Chiron, Hera, Rama, Demeter, Gilgamesh, Eris, Hestia, Lucifer, you can just use your combo to do as I said. Deal about 2000 damage for every 1500 Hades heals. I think you will appreciate the pot healing a lot more after more runs.

[Cujo]

Originally posted by Its_LB:

If you are doing EM4 then you should expect it to be a little in Hades' favor. To be honest normal Hades is super easy once you beat him about 10 times (I've beaten him after Deadelus' Anvil ♥♥♥♥♥♥ me over with Cursed Slash and Dashing Nova) and EM4 shows that with a bit of a tune up he can stay consistently as a hard boss. The Pots are there for you to make a choice, do you try to break the pots and accidently stunning yourself or do you try to do as much damage to Hades as possible, doing more damage than he is healing for. They are actually one of my most favorite part of the run cause with aspects like Nemesis, Arthur, Chiron, Hera, Rama, Demeter, Gilgamesh, Eris, Hestia, Lucifer, you can just use your combo to do as I said. Deal about 2000 damage for every 1500 Hades heals. I think you will appreciate the pot healing a lot more after more runs.

I have to admit, I love Cursed Slash. It allows me to just turn my brain off and mash keys to become invincible. Especially if you offset the weakness with chaos health upgrades, aphrodite life boon and dionysus nectar health upgrade.