Hades II

Hades II

Rediz Nov 16, 2024 @ 10:14am
Where do you prefer the blocking mechanics: Axe or Jetpack?
I miss on the Axe.
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SPRITENADO Nov 16, 2024 @ 11:29am 
I really liked the like block on the axe. The Black Cloak can't compare in terms of blocking
Cellux Nov 16, 2024 @ 2:31pm 
What do you mean it can't compare? It blocks everything the same way.. Shield lasts a bit longer also - but maybe I'm wrong about this.

Or do you mean synergy, how it works together with the rest of the moves?
Last edited by Cellux; Nov 16, 2024 @ 2:32pm
Songbird Nov 16, 2024 @ 3:52pm 
Originally posted by Cellux:
What do you mean it can't compare? It blocks everything the same way.. Shield lasts a bit longer also - but maybe I'm wrong about this.

Or do you mean synergy, how it works together with the rest of the moves?

The axe could block during its attack combos, which was a way to reach the slow finisher safely. The coat cannot since it's part of an omega move, which commits you to the omega move animation, although the coat also doesn't care about it as much since it only has a two-hit attack combo.

Also, the axe's block was disjointed from Mel and generally just blocked a LOT more things than the coat's block does, such as erasing the clock hands in the Chronos fight and working against several projectiles that don't seem to be blockable with the coat.
Rediz Nov 16, 2024 @ 4:03pm 
I have the impression that blocking with the Axe was easier and more accurate. Additionally, the synergy with the Chiron aspect was huge.
I really miss the block on the axe. Chiron's aspect isn't much fun to play with out it, imo. I love the Black Coat but I never use the Omega punch (I do love its dash-strike though).
Rediz Nov 17, 2024 @ 1:20pm 
Originally posted by Biscuits! Werewolves!:
I really miss the block on the axe. Chiron's aspect isn't much fun to play with out it, imo. I love the Black Coat but I never use the Omega punch (I do love its dash-strike though).

I'm trying to figure out if this is a more widespread feeling. I think this forum is an important feedback point in that regard.
Super Buu Nov 17, 2024 @ 7:14pm 
Generally, I rarely use omegas. They are annoying to set up. But the Black Coat especially. I don't really feel safe with the way its blocking works. Maybe for a brief moment, but not enough to build around the omega.
ArqaneGames Nov 18, 2024 @ 11:30am 
The auto-aim blocking of the black coat is kind of nice, but overall I just don't really like the omega attack for it. It also tends to burn a whole lot of mana to use the block effectively. The two hammer synergies don't really help it out much, either. I wasn't a big fan of the axe blocking either, though. Always seemed kind of clunky to me.
Aumires Nov 18, 2024 @ 11:35am 
I miss it on the axe, as the usually sluggish and slow attacks had that as a safety. Even if it still rocks, it certainly feels lacking. The coat seems to have a bit of everything itself and can't help but feel that it's made with the recent combat changes in mind.
Rediz Nov 18, 2024 @ 12:22pm 
Originally posted by ArqaneGames:
The auto-aim blocking of the black coat is kind of nice, but overall I just don't really like the omega attack for it. It also tends to burn a whole lot of mana to use the block effectively. The two hammer synergies don't really help it out much, either. I wasn't a big fan of the axe blocking either, though. Always seemed kind of clunky to me.
It was good on Charon.

Despite the small sample size, I believe most players prefer the axe mechanic. I hope this gets to the devs somehow.
Songbird Nov 18, 2024 @ 2:53pm 
Originally posted by Rediz:
Originally posted by ArqaneGames:
The auto-aim blocking of the black coat is kind of nice, but overall I just don't really like the omega attack for it. It also tends to burn a whole lot of mana to use the block effectively. The two hammer synergies don't really help it out much, either. I wasn't a big fan of the axe blocking either, though. Always seemed kind of clunky to me.
It was good on Charon.

Despite the small sample size, I believe most players prefer the axe mechanic. I hope this gets to the devs somehow.

I mean, new axe special is kinda cool, having a move to weave between attacks and tag enemies with status curses, quickly shred damage shields, or finish off something that doesn't need the third combo hit. Mel axe in particular is pretty happy to just go dash-strike (with the hammer that hits twice) > special, alternate repeatedly until dead, never worry about the slower moves.

But it does result in the slam (attack combo 3) feeling incredibly bad, the weapon needing a blitz special or something similarly impactful, a much worse Chronos fight, and general problems with getting attacks out. Like I had an Charon axe run get a giant invincible-until-everything-else-is-dead mourner (I think that's the name, the wailing enemies that chase you) off Fangs x2 and literally had nothing I could do to keep it off me with how long the weapon has to stand in place.
jimmyliou1990 Nov 19, 2024 @ 6:39am 
I prefer black coat blocking mechanic more solely because they way it deploys feels more intuitive and reliable imo. However, I would really rather move the blocking BACK to axe due to necessity.

Black coat play styles are most of the time agile enough and I find myself rarely utilizing the blocking mechanic because of it. The same cannot be said for axe, especially Charon axe. What we have now is a giant ass open window for getting hit before firing omega special; it's something you can get used to, but it makes this aspect so clunky to use.
🌸Mia 桜 Nov 19, 2024 @ 12:21pm 
I definetly think the axe needs it. It was my favorite weapon in the past and now I spam the cloak because its new and the block just feels unessecary. IT doesnt feel like the cloak needs a block with how his mechanics work and the axe special just feels bad now.
Rediz Nov 19, 2024 @ 12:30pm 
Originally posted by 🌸Mia 桜:
I definetly think the axe needs it. It was my favorite weapon in the past and now I spam the cloak because its new and the block just feels unessecary. IT doesnt feel like the cloak needs a block with how his mechanics work and the axe special just feels bad now.

I agree.
I think I only use coat blocking in very specific boss situations. To clear Chronos' spheres, for example. I really think it's unnecessary in general.
Anderson Nov 20, 2024 @ 1:18pm 
Block on Axe was great. Now, special on it feels pointless.
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