Not Overwhelmingly Positive?

[christofin]

I'm wondering what the reason for the reviews being a bit lower than Hades 1 (98% positive reviews) are with Hades II (94%). I sifted through the reviews but didn't really see any recurring themes - if you left a negative review, can you share why? Thanks!

[Saeko]

Hades 1 early access was on Epic store not steam, could be the reason, because it's less polish atm !

[Lynfinity]

Call me crazy, but I was under the impression that Hades 1 is a finished and fully realized project while Hades 2 is still in development, and thus rough around the edges.

[K.I.L.E.R]

I think most negative reviews are the result of Melinoe's feet being too distracting.

[Soulcatcher]

Originally posted by Lynfinity:

Call me crazy, but I was under the impression that Hades 1 is a finished and fully realized project while Hades 2 is still in development, and thus rough around the edges.

That's correct. When Hades became available in steam it was already final version. Hades 2 is only early access.

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

Originally posted by Lynfinity:

Call me crazy, but I was under the impression that Hades 1 is a finished and fully realized project while Hades 2 is still in development, and thus rough around the edges.

Call me crazy, but a 4% disparity sounds utterly nonsignificant. What a strange thread.

[christofin]

Originally posted by Morton Koopa Jr.:

Originally posted by Lynfinity:

Call me crazy, but I was under the impression that Hades 1 is a finished and fully realized project while Hades 2 is still in development, and thus rough around the edges.

Call me crazy, but a 4% disparity sounds utterly nonsignificant. What a strange thread.

Over the course of 28,000 reviews that is the definition of mathematically significant. There is clearly a disparity between the proportion of people who disliked Hades I to people who disliked Hades II.

[christofin]

I'm also not here to stir anything up, just genuinely curious what people don't like about it - is it the combat? Movement? Bugs & polish?

[jbrd_]

Originally posted by christofin:

Originally posted by Morton Koopa Jr.:

Call me crazy, but a 4% disparity sounds utterly nonsignificant. What a strange thread.

Over the course of 28,000 reviews that is the definition of mathematically significant. There is clearly a disparity between the proportion of people who disliked Hades I to people who disliked Hades II.

1) Hades I wasn't on Steam until after a year of early access on another platform, where it received a massive amount of polish.
2) Hades II features a more diverse cast of characters which has lead to increased brigading by hate groups.

To be clear, I'm not dismissing the mechanical and visual problems others have expressed. I'm simply clarifying that a number of the negative reviews are backed by bigotry,

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

Originally posted by christofin:

Originally posted by Morton Koopa Jr.:

Call me crazy, but a 4% disparity sounds utterly nonsignificant. What a strange thread.

Over the course of 28,000 reviews that is the definition of mathematically significant. There is clearly a disparity between the proportion of people who disliked Hades I to people who disliked Hades II.

No...that's not the definition of mathematically significant.
Also, "Mathematically significant" isn't a real term.

You can't determine statistical significance from sample size alone. I mean you can, but it's just lazy. With a high enough n, you'd be calling a .1% difference significant, but would that even matter.

This thread really sounds like thinly veiled ragebaiting to be perfectly honest.

Game has 94% approval. WHY DONT PEOPLE LIKE IT.

[COOLSKELETON95]

Originally posted by christofin:

I'm also not here to stir anything up, just genuinely curious what people don't like about it - is it the combat? Movement? Bugs & polish?

It's in early access so it's naturally gonna be less polished than the final version of the first game
a 4% difference in reviews is tiny lmao

[christofin]

Hades II has enough reviews to cross the threshold to be able to be overwhelmingly positive, but it isn't, whereas Hades is overwhelmingly positive, so clearly there is something that people don't like about it.

A 4% difference with 28,000 reviews is more than enough to draw the conclusion that a lower proportion of people are enjoying Hades II than Hades. I'm just wondering why. For people that think this is ragebait, maybe you spend too much time on the internet?

[COOLSKELETON95]

Originally posted by christofin:

Hades II has enough reviews to cross the threshold to be able to be overwhelmingly positive, but it isn't, whereas Hades is overwhelmingly positive, so clearly there is something that people don't like about it.

A 4% difference with 28,000 reviews is more than enough to draw the conclusion that a lower proportion of people are enjoying Hades II than Hades. I'm just wondering why. For people that think this is ragebait, maybe you spend too much time on the internet?

the first game has almost 10 times as many reviews, that's a huge difference in sample size.
Still, as I said, the game is in early access so it is naturally gonna be less polished than the final version of the first game and that would be the main thing that could influence reviews at the moment.

[Siegvater]

To be fair, I think that any successor always has a much more difficult job to convince people. A lot of people played Hades I and everyone came into Hades II with different expectations and, more importantly, their own conception of what Hades II *should* be in their respective opinion. Hades II does quite a few things differently than Hades I and, given that it's in Early Access, some things just haven't been "ironed out" yet, such as weapon or boon balance.

The distinct change of gameplay in regards to dodging alone will have certainly alienated some Hades I fans - just have a look at some early threads here at the forums.

Thus: people have their own idea of what Hades II should be like. The developer's perspective will certainly clash with some of these ideas and if you are disappointed - you might leave a negative review.

Having had a look at the negative reviews, they seem to be split between what I described above, i.e. claims about the gameplay (weapons and boons not feeling "right", slower gameplay in general) and some criticize the art / forced diversity which is a valid, yet highly subjective point.

[VAL]

Ignoring the reactionary negative reviews, everyone else left a negative review due to aspects of the game directly related to it being in early access. Frankly, i dont understand why they allow reviews during EA since a lot of those complaints should be lodged in the forums on discord/reddit/steam but thats just me.

[PyroMonk]

getting stuck on walls is not "Rough" iit's insane