I Found Eris

[The Sojourner]

Started a fresh file yesterday to see how far I could make it. Made it as far as Scylla.

Idk if I got lucky, but on my first run, I didn't see her. But then on my second run I saw her at the start of Oceanus. Then on subsequent runs I saw her at the start of the Fields of Mourning.

I now wonder if she just pops up on those early runs when your build is detected to have a certain strength to it. If not, then I gotta say, this is getting real old real quick.

The interactions are cute, but I actually kinda hope the curse of Strife Incarnate gets tweaked, if not outright removed, come the v1.0 release, as otherwise it'll be seen as a killjoy (as if we needed another reason to dislike Eris...).

[happy]

I thought Eris was her own boss that was encountered at a certain part in the overworld? I've met her there, on the beach at the same location twice and got one shot by her in her second phase. I'm guessing she's extremely strong because there's no more progression after her in the current version of the game?

[The Sojourner]

She's there as well, yes, but I'm talking about when she appears in the Underworld.

[Silyon]

Far as I understand, she shows up when you're preforming too well at the game and in danger of triggering events out of order or causing continuity errors. This happened for some people in Hades 1, and with how many unlocks are tied to specific event triggers having the story progress out-of-order could result in locking yourself out of the ability to have familiars, or aspects, or unlocking the surface.

Which would be quite a bit more annoying than having Eris kill a run with her boon. She's gone for good after 10 runs, which apparently was judged to be enough time to ensure everything could trigger without conflict. Ten losses is nothing in the scheme of the game.

[The Sojourner]

Originally posted by Silyon:

Ten losses is nothing in the scheme of the game.

True, even 20, 50, maybe even 100 losses is still but naught, though it'll be sure to rub the perfectionists the wrong way to be sure if it's not taken out by the time early access ends.

[paincanbefun]

What's this? Would someone please explain what she does if she shows up outside the beach arena? Never heard of this

[The Sojourner]

Originally posted by paincanbefun:

What's this? Would someone please explain what she does if she shows up outside the beach arena? Never heard of this

Eris shows up in essentially two places. The first is on the Surface as the (final — for now) boss at the end of the Rift of Thessaly, trying to kill you using her version of the Rail of Adamant, but the second only happens if you do Underworld runs early on with a high degree of success: She'll appear at the start of Oceanus, the Fields of Mourning, or possibly even Tartarus, and give you a curse that makes you more vulnerable to foes' attacks (specifically +20% more damage from foes, growing +5% each Encounter).

[paincanbefun]

she curses you and makes you lose the run?! I guess I'm glad I wasn't that good, lol. wow. thank you for explaining!

[jbrd_]

Originally posted by paincanbefun:

she curses you and makes you lose the run?! I guess I'm glad I wasn't that good, lol. wow. thank you for explaining!

She doesn’t make you lose the run, just makes it significantly more punishing when taking damage. It’s worth running into her as you get a hefty amount of meta resources (psyche, ash, bones).

[jimmyliou1990]

Originally posted by Silyon:

Far as I understand, she shows up when you're preforming too well at the game

That's why I've never seen her during any run outside of her boss room (facepalm). Thanks of the info anyway I was confused about people complaining her random encounter

[Neo NiGHTS ®]

In the first Hades, if you knew what you were doing (i.e. If you had played and beaten it to dead already previously), you could very easily beat the whole game (the "first" ending and then the "true" ending) very very very early on, thus completely "breaking" the story and dialogues.

For sure the devs now want to mitigate that. Although, of course, there'll be high skilled players that will manage to beat it anyway in the first try, but it'll be much tougher.