Too many ARs, give more Kalashnikov please!

[D E V]

I have spoken

EDIT: Stirred up the hornets nest (daycare) with this one, didnt think having a weapon platform in a VIDEO GAME where they send 5 people to missions they would easily send hundreds for would be so controversial, some of yall need to just have a lil fun its a video game not real life.

[MulticamDruid]

It's weird enough that a police department in the united states issues even one kalash. (or the AUG, lol, that's crazy.)

It's good to have options but tbh most of the ARs are goofy skeletonized ones and I wish they'd give us some more proper options for AR. A car-15-ish thing to match the old school gear you can unlock and an A2 for that 20-inch goodness.

[algae]

An AK is not a tactical gun. It's not even a FIRST WORLD gun. Want an AK? Go play a war game

[North_Dumpling]

Need at least one AR with carryhandle please

[ureaditwrong]

Originally posted by algae:

An AK is not a tactical gun. It's not even a FIRST WORLD gun. Want an AK? Go play a war game

only for US consumers because of Obama-era sanctions, there are plenty of tactical AKs in the Eastern Bloc.

LEOs use AKs in Alaska so it's not too far fetched for there to be multiple AKs in the game

[Bruce Springsteen fan]

Originally posted by ureaditwrong (xig/xir):

Originally posted by algae:

An AK is not a tactical gun. It's not even a FIRST WORLD gun. Want an AK? Go play a war game

only for US consumers because of Obama-era sanctions, there are plenty of tactical AKs in the Eastern Bloc.

LEOs use AKs in Alaska so it's not too far fetched for there to be multiple AKs in the game

Traditional users of AK's in the eastern bloc have basically ditched the AK in mass for either a M4 or something more modern. The AK might have been the best of the best when it came to combat rifles years ago, but today it's outdated.

[Bluehawk]

I agree there are too many ARs, if only because they're all functionally identical for the player.

[Mefwhesk]

Another variant of the AK has already been modeled and partially animated, it used to be in the game's files. I imagine it will be implemented when the PvP game mode is released so that the criminal side can use it.

[Bala]

It would be cool for them to add more SLR-107s to the game but man I just want my M16A4 back into the game already.

[ExplosiveBolts]

Originally posted by algae:

An AK is not a tactical gun. It's not even a FIRST WORLD gun. Want an AK? Go play a war game

What is a "tactical gun"?

[Dangan]

Originally posted by algae:

An AK is not a tactical gun. It's not even a FIRST WORLD gun. Want an AK? Go play a war game

Throws an entire stock of KR-103 rifles into your hands

[Gladiator-Ricdog]

The AK is superior to the AR in this games due to its bigger 30 caliber ammo, which is better for penetration against barriers (i.e. bricks, doors, concrete, cars, etc...). AR are better for penetrating only certain objects like body armor, but their smaller bullet gives less kinetic energy.

[The Mogician]

I don't think LEOs in the US are issue AKs.

[Graywolf364]

Originally posted by Gladiator-Ricdog:

The AK is superior to the AR in this games due to its bigger 30 caliber ammo, which is better for penetration against barriers (i.e. bricks, doors, concrete, cars, etc...). AR are better for penetrating only certain objects like body armor, but their smaller bullet gives less kinetic energy.

Cough. 300 BLK is explicitly in-game.

[Gladiator-Ricdog]

Originally posted by Graywolf364:

Originally posted by Gladiator-Ricdog:

The AK is superior to the AR in this games due to its bigger 30 caliber ammo, which is better for penetration against barriers (i.e. bricks, doors, concrete, cars, etc...). AR are better for penetrating only certain objects like body armor, but their smaller bullet gives less kinetic energy.

Cough. 300 BLK is explicitly in-game.

A newer round, I admit I'm not sure how proven it truly is. It supposed to be an inbetween the typical AR and AK round. However, its typically promoted mainly as a subsonic round. Meaning its lower velocity, but great for silencers.

[Graywolf364]

People need to stop relying on Wikipedia for info about what local agencies use. There are so many law enforcement agencies in the United States that no one actually knows how many there are and policing in the United States is decentralized.

Which means they have a lot of autonomy when it comes to what's used on duty. Most of which will never be added to Wikipedia unless the agency is required to submit a press release.

Many agencies also allow for personal purchase of patrol rifles, some with almost no restrictions others with a ton. So it's quite possible that an individual LEO that loves the AK platform can run one on duty.

Additionally, smaller agencies have less formality when it comes to purchases. All it takes is one particularly literate deputy or officer to put together a white paper saying that they need this and here's why. It doesn't even have to be correct, it just needs to be persuasive enough to convince the chief or sheriff that it's necessary. So you can absolutely find smaller agencies with some truly funky stuff. Case in point Larry Vickers weapons trafficking scandal. Larger agencies aren't entirely immune from this but they often have formal procurement policies that require testing and a bunch of extra paperwork that agency with 15 sworn doesn't have to do deal with.

For most agencies in the United States particularly ones with well trained tactical teams, it's going to be 50 flavors of AR derivative. But I have seen AKs in police inventory. I've also seen several agencies buy the Saiga-12. With the idea that they would be great for breaching but they end up dropping them pretty quickly so they mostly live In the arms room. And many companies that have set up shop in the United States have tried pedaling their rifles to agencies. IMI has been trying to sell the ACE and x95 to agencies for years. You're much more likely to see an AK derivative then any of the other exotic platform represented in-game.